Is Time Really Moving Towards Zero Energy?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time and its relationship to energy, specifically whether time is moving towards a state of zero energy. Participants explore theoretical implications of time as it relates to energy cycles, the functioning of clocks, and the nature of time itself. The conversation includes elements of theory development and alternative perspectives on established concepts in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that time can be viewed as a measure of work done by a battery in a clock, suggesting that time is equivalent to the energy expended.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the proposed theory should be categorized under "Theory Development" due to its alternative nature.
  • A participant questions the alternative nature of the theory, noting that it does not necessarily contradict the current understanding of time's direction towards increasing entropy.
  • Another participant connects the idea of time moving towards zero energy with atomic and electromagnetic oscillations, suggesting that as energy diminishes, time may also be perceived as running out.
  • One participant asserts that their concept of Time Cycle (TC) is a unique invention, indicating a personal contribution to the discussion of time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the categorization of the theory and its relationship to existing theories of time and energy. While some see connections to established concepts, others argue for its uniqueness, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the relationship between time and energy that may not be universally accepted. There are references to existing theories, such as entropy, which are not fully explored or reconciled with the new propositions presented.

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Suppose we have turned on a clock. It have begun to account the time. What means the evidence of this instrument? The amount of conditional time lag has passed from event A before event B. The Direction of time - from a certain initial point (zero) to the endless future. Time is totalized. Time is counting forward up. In this nobody has doubt. This became as axiom.
But my cogitations about time have brought me to the other conclusion.
Let be a clock with battery. Let these clock has a timer i.e. it allows to totalize time. Let, the clock had stopped in 2400 hours (144000 sec) after start. The timer has fixed this numeral. What it means?
The most probable reason of clock stoping is a failure
of the battery. In this case the number shown by timer corresponds to time of functioning (working) of the battery or its Time Cycle (TC), or
TIME CYCLE is STRAIGHT PROPORTIONAL to WORK
made by battery.
TC = k*A (1)
where TC - time cycle;
k - a factor;
A - a work;
Though, unit of time is a second, but unit of work is Joule, it is possible to say-evidence of the timer i.e. the time is equivalent of a work which was made.
For our example this 144000 (sec) = 0.5 (Joule)
Each second in timer corresponds to work (0.5/144000) joule. This is an accumulative principle:
in each second an amount of executed work has increases.
But notion "work" is not fundamental. The fundamental notion is a POWER.
N = A / t (2)
where N - a power;
A - a work;
t - time;

Having substituted (1) in (2) we'll get

N = TC /(k* t) (3)

In in respect of a clock this means a following.
Timer from the beginning is installed to the condition corresponding to TC of a battery i.e. 144000 sec. Each second the unit of time (energy) is SUBTRACTED from this value . This value decreasing discrete.
Each evidence of the timer is corresponds to the potential energy of the battery on given moment. Since each second an energy decreases together with TC.
So. Time for the all object in universe has a direction on reduction of characteristic of its TC, that corresponds to the reduction of its energy. This process of reduction of TC of all object occurs discrete on each next quantum of time Qt. Qt simultaneously is the synchronizing signal for all object.
TIME GOES in the INVERSE DIRECTION i.e to zero.
 
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I believe this would go in the "theory development" section as I certainly can tell he's trying to give a straight-up theory.
 
Originally posted by neutroncount
I believe this would go in the "theory development" section as I certainly can tell he's trying to give a straight-up theory.
Are you afraid to say your personal opinion? If it exists, indeed.
 
No, I'm saying that this should go there because you are presenting an alternative theory and there is a subforum under this theoretical physics forum called "Theory Development" that alternate theories should go in. It's nothing about personal opinion.
 
Originally posted by neutroncount
No, I'm saying that this should go there because you are presenting an alternative theory and there is a subforum under this theoretical physics forum called "Theory Development" that alternate theories should go in. It's nothing about personal opinion.

Oh good, the new assistant mentor!
 
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Originally posted by neutroncount
No, I'm saying that this should go there because you are presenting an alternative theory and there is a subforum under this theoretical physics forum called "Theory Development" that alternate theories should go in. It's nothing about personal opinion.
Alternative to what? By the way, the current theory reports that time is directed on increasing of entropy. This means that all objects at time lose their own characteristic. In this point my theory does not disagree with existing one. What information about characteristic of time you dispose else?
 


Originally posted by LW Sleeth
You mean to zero energy? If so, I think someone in another thread has been saying this too. That TC represents a cycle, to me, ultimately relates it to atomic and EM oscillation. As atoms decay, and EM slows, so too does the energy available for running the universe become unavailable. Time is running out.

So it seems true that the universe is marching from some positive number (representing the amount of energy left for work) "backwards" toward zero.
Thank you for confession of the obvious truth, LW Sleeth. However I suspect that you will not find nothing similar nor on this forum nor on the other one. Because the TC this is my personal invention and in the section of PF, where neutroncount trying to send me ("Theory Devrlopment") exists several topics (of mine) which has relating to the problem of Time.
 

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