Partial Derivative: Finding t with Respect to x | Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around finding the partial derivative of the function t = x / √(x² + y²) with respect to x. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on differentiation techniques for functions of multiple variables.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods for differentiating the given function, including the quotient rule and product rule. Some express uncertainty about the derivative of a quotient and seek clarification on the rules involved. Others mention using the definition of the derivative as a fallback method.

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The conversation includes multiple perspectives on how to approach the differentiation problem. Some participants offer guidance on differentiation techniques, while others question specific steps or clarify concepts. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods without a clear consensus on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention difficulties with textbook explanations and recall of differentiation rules, indicating potential gaps in foundational understanding. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these concepts.

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Hi All,

Can someone refresh my memory and show me how to find the following partial derivate:

[tex]t=\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}[/tex]

with respect to x.

Thanks
 
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The partial derivative of t(x,y) with respect to x is found by differentiating the expression as in 1-variable calculus; just remember that y is to be considered a constant. For example:
[tex]t(x,y)=xy\rightarrow\frac{\partial{t}}{\partial{x}}=y[/tex]
 
Yeah I understand the concept. It's just that I've forgotten how to find the derivative of a quotient. The textbook that I have doesn't explain it clearly.
 
The simplest way is to solve for the derivative of t w.r. to x by differentiating the equivalent equation with respect to x:
[tex]\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}t(x,y)=x[/tex]

Another easy way is (I'll give it for one variable):
[tex]t(x)=\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}[/tex]
Use the product rule and the chain rule:
[tex]\frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{f'(x)}{g(x)}-\frac{f(x)}{g^{2}(x)}*g'(x)[/tex]
 
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I remember the quotient rule as "Lo d Hi minus Hi d Lo over Lo squared," or:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\,\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}=\frac{gf' - fg'}{g^2}[/tex]
 
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Personally I generally use:
[tex]\frac{a}{b}=a (b)^{-1}[/tex]
so in your case
[tex]\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}=x (x^2+y^2)^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]
 
galipop said:
Yeah I understand the concept. It's just that I've forgotten how to find the derivative of a quotient. The textbook that I have doesn't explain it clearly.

When I forget how do calculate a particular derivate I always derive it by using the definition of the derivate, i.e.
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}f(x) = \lim_{h \to \infty} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]​
e(ho0n3
 
NateTG said:
Personally I generally use:
[tex]\frac{a}{b}=a (b)^{-1}[/tex]
so in your case
[tex]\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}=x (x^2+y^2)^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

How do you proceed using this form?
 
Product rule and power rule.

f'*g + g'*f, where f = x and g = (x^2 + y^2)^(-1/2), so f' = 1 and g' = -x(x^2 + y^2)^(-3/2)

And e(ho0n3, don't you mean limit as h goes to 0?

cookiemonster
 
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cookiemonster said:
Product rule and power rule.

f'*g + g'*f, where f = x and g = (x^2 + y^2)^(-1/2), so f' = 1 and g' = -x(x^2 + y^2)^(-3/2)

And e(ho0n3, don't you mean limit as h goes to 0?

cookiemonster

Thanks Cookiemonster.
 

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