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| Jan15-09, 09:24 AM | #1 |
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Continental drift: effect on climate cycles
I'd be interested in any ideas or theories or references on how the location of the continents is thought to affect global warming and cooling cycles. I previously read somewhere that the current position of the continents would cause different net solar heat absorption/reflection than prior locations hundreds of thousands or millions of years ago.
Don't quote me on this but it may be that currently there are signficiantly greater land masses further from the equator than in past epochs...but I can't remember what the hypothesis was about net absorption/reflection of solar energy relative to earlier periods. |
| Jan15-09, 11:09 AM | #2 |
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I'm not sure that continent movements are really that cyclic.
Land masses joining and separating have a huge effect on ocean currents and so on local climate. N and S America joining directed the gulf stream toward Europe and the separating of Antarctica created the Antarctic circumpolar current that keeps the south pole nice and cold. |
| Jan15-09, 12:35 PM | #3 |
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It does affect climate in a huge way, and if you view "cycles" as hundreds of millions of years then I guess the answer is 'yes'. The formation of supercontinents (see my definition below) is an example:
Rodinia was the first supercontinent, then later on at the end of the Triassic, Pangea was the last. That we know about anyway. Ur, Neno and the others mentioned in the literature are excluded by me since they predate multicellular life. Plus, I'm using supercontinent to mean one giant continent made of most all of the continents- not Laurasia or Gondwana which were two continents merged. Rodinia has been "blamed" for a long cold period from about ~700 mya to 550 mya. This has been referred to as snowball Earth or the 'white Earth hypothesis' http://www-eps.harvard.edu/people/fa...all_paper.html There is newer evidence to refute a complete 'iceball' Earth http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0323104746.htm The late Triassic was very warm, possibly the warmest period since multicellular life took hold on Earth- and this hot period this was when Pangea was all together in a large landmass straddling the equator. http://www.scotese.com/ltriascl.htm |
| Jan15-09, 03:16 PM | #4 |
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Continental drift: effect on climate cycles
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=4073
It may seem fairly odd, but warming winters actually tends to lead to ice ages as it allows more snow to accumulate than would otherwise. The Laurentide and Euroasian sheets were huge and they only got that way by lots of precipitation. |
| Jan16-09, 04:09 AM | #5 |
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| Jan16-09, 08:34 AM | #6 |
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Noticed that there were comments in Raymo's paper regarding Huybers:
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| Jan16-09, 11:27 AM | #7 |
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| Jan16-09, 12:46 PM | #8 |
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There are several super continent formations stretching back to the beginning of the non lava stage of the surface.
The last one was called Gaia IIRC (my mistake it was Pangea) it usually means there is widespread warming and some pretty cataclysmic weather. See albedo effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo |
| Jan16-09, 12:50 PM | #9 |
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On the first page is the following paragraph:
So, take your pick; but nobody for the Ithmus of Panama. |
| Jan16-09, 01:14 PM | #10 |
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See Milankovich cycles too as the growth of ice sheets effects axial tilt and in turn effects the eccentricity of Earth's orbit which in turn leads to colder conditions or warmer accordingly. It is safe to say that ice sheets cause feedback loops that make everything cooler in front of them thus increasing ice formation, this effects axial tilt which in turn can make it colder still leading to a hypothetical snowball Earth. The effects are exponential at some point.
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| Jan17-09, 04:10 AM | #11 |
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| Jan17-09, 05:33 AM | #12 |
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Mammo; thanks for pointing that out.
So, a distinction is made between the initation of NH glaciation and the mid-Pleistocene transition (MPT) from a 41K to 100K year cycles. Proposals for the MPT are more subtle. Can't say that I really understand shoaling of the thermocline or changes in the North Pacific stratification. However, what impresses me is that all of these proposals may have played a part. |
| Jan18-09, 08:12 AM | #13 |
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| Jan18-09, 10:09 AM | #14 |
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From Raymo:
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| Jan21-09, 08:21 AM | #15 |
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Rapid deglaciation compared to glaciation now makes sense. The topography of the NE American continent allows lubricated glaciers to advance much more quickly to the low-lying Hudson Bay area. Sea-level rise adds to the ability of increased ice melt from continental shelves. This is more a feature of the Antarctic topography, which is currently in a phase of accelerated deglaciation. Source of diagram is NOAA |
| Jan21-09, 08:45 PM | #16 |
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The current theory is called plate tectonics and is quite distinct from continental drift, an earlier and dispelled theory. Continents don't drift -they are carried along by plates.
An important sea is the Artic sea. It is segregated from the other oceans by shallow and narrow connections. During the last Ice Age it was possible to cross the Bering Sea since it was dry. |
| Jan21-09, 09:05 PM | #17 |
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The mid ocean ridge secretes new continental crust at different rates. Slower growth can lower the global sea level while faster rates can raise the global sea level. This changes the albedo and total absorption of CO2 while the volcanic activity emits of CO2.
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