Calculating Gravity of a Single Body: Equation and Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of gravitational strength for a single body, exploring the relevant equations and concepts in both classical and Newtonian gravity. Participants inquire about the specifics of measuring gravitational force and the implications of mass distribution.

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  • One participant asks for the equation to calculate the gravity of a single body.
  • Another participant provides the equation for gravitational field strength as GM/r, noting its complexity in general relativity.
  • A question is raised about whether 'r' is measured from the center of the object and if gravity is stronger closer to the center of the Earth.
  • It is mentioned that Newton's gravity allows for treating an object's mass as if located at the center, regardless of shape or distribution, implying that a hollow Earth would not affect gravitational calculations.
  • One participant points out that at the center of an object, the value of 'r' equals zero.
  • Another participant clarifies that while mass can be treated as concentrated at the center in Newtonian gravity, this is only valid outside the body, and gravitational force decreases to zero when approaching the center.
  • Inquiries are made about equations that reflect the gravitational behavior inside a spherical mass distribution.
  • Equations are proposed for gravitational force outside and inside a uniform spherical mass distribution, indicating different behaviors based on the radius.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of Newtonian gravity, but there are differing views on the implications of mass distribution and the behavior of gravity as one approaches the center of a mass. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific equations and their applications.

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Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions underlying the equations and the conditions under which they apply, particularly regarding the uniformity of mass distribution and the validity of certain gravitational treatments.

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Sorry to ask such a simple question but I appreciate the level of knowldege you guys have.
What is the equation for calculating a single bodies gravity?
 
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The gravitational field strength is = GM/r
(in classical gravity - it's a bit more complicated in general relativity)

It's really just a different way of writing the equation in the other thread for the force on a 1kg object placed at a distance 'r'
 
Is r measured from the centre of the object? If so is gravity stronger closer to the centre of the earth.
Thanks by the way
Chris
 
Yes The nice thing about Newton's gravity is you can just use the total mass at the 'centre of gravity' and not have to care about the shape or distribution.
The Earth could actually be hollow and as long as it had the same total mass you wouldn't be able to tell - gravity would work just the same.
 
So at the centre of an object the value r = 0
 
While in Newtonian gravity you treat all an object's mass as if it were located at the center, this assumption is only valid while you are outside of the body. If, for example, you started digging into the earth, you would find that the gravitational force decreases to zero as you approach the center.
 
Is there an equation tht reflects this?
 
Nabeshin said:
While in Newtonian gravity you treat all an object's mass as if it were located at the center, this assumption is only valid while you are outside of the body.
Furthermore, it's only valid for spherically symmetric mass distributions.
 
chis said:
Is there an equation tht reflects this?

Assuming a uniform spherical mass distribution, we have the following equations:

[tex]g(r)=-G\frac{m}{r^{2}}\hat{r} ; r>r_{0}[/tex]
[tex]g(r)=-\frac{Gm_{0}}{r_{0}^{3}}r\hat{r} ; r<r_{0}[/tex]
 

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