Measuring 45 Minutes with Ropes & Liquid

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a puzzle involving two cloth ropes with non-uniform thicknesses and a bucket of colored liquid, focusing on how to measure 45 minutes using these materials. The scope includes problem-solving and reasoning related to the properties of the ropes and the behavior of the liquid as it wicks through them.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the puzzle is old but express interest in finding a solution.
  • One participant suggests dipping both ends of one rope in the liquid, implying a method to measure time based on the wicking process.
  • Another participant proposes folding one rope in half and dipping the ends, but raises a concern about the accuracy of the timing due to the non-constant wicking rate.
  • A later reply outlines a proposed solution involving the timing of wicking from both ends of the ropes, detailing the sequence of actions to achieve the desired measurement of 45 minutes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of familiarity with the puzzle, and while some propose methods to solve it, there is no consensus on the best approach or the accuracy of the proposed solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the wicking process, particularly regarding the non-constant rate and the implications of wicking from both ends of the ropes.

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You have two cloth ropes. The ropes have non-uniform thicknesses and are of different lengths. You also have a bucket of colored liquid. When you dip an end of a rope into the liquid, the colored liquid wicks through the rope, progressing through it at some non-constant rate. The total wick-time for the ropes is 1 hour each. How would you measure 45 minutes using only the ropes and the liquid ?
 
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Old puzzle.
 
oops sorry...just ignore it. I'm fairly new here and haven't looked through all the older stuff.
 
this puzzle might be old, but i would still like to know the answer.
 
vikasj007 said:
this puzzle might be old, but i would still like to know the answer.

Sure thing : but let me give you a BIG hint instead. What happens when you simultaneously dip both ends of a rope in the liquid ?
 
im sure you just fold one in half and dip the ends in the water.

after its full, you can dip the other rope in two spots, and it will wick in 15 mins.

one semantic problem is that once a wicked part meets another wicked part the wicking rate wouldn't increase at the ends. the 15 minute timer wouldn't be exact.
 
For closure on this...here's the solution :

START : Dip one end of rope 1 and both ends of rope 2. Rope 2 will wick through in 30 mins. So rope 1 has exhausted 30 mins of its length and has 30 mins of wick-time left. At the instant that rope 2 completes wicking through (after 30 mins), dip the other end of rope 1. So now a half-hour rope has liquid wicking through from both ends, and hence will last 15 mins.

TOTAL TIME = 30 +15 =45 mins exactly !

No probkem !
 

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