Are phottons effected by gravity?

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The discussion revolves around whether photons are affected by gravity, exploring theoretical implications and interpretations of gravitational effects on light. Participants examine concepts related to black holes, escape velocity, and gravitational lensing, with a focus on the nature of light in the context of general relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that photons are affected by gravity, suggesting that if the escape velocity of a planet exceeds the speed of light, photons would be completely stopped.
  • Others argue that light follows the curvature of spacetime due to gravity, likening it to a marble rolling through a dent in the floor, which leads to phenomena like gravitational lensing.
  • There is a claim that a black hole's escape velocity exceeds the speed of light, creating an event horizon beyond which photons cannot escape.
  • One participant points out the distinction between velocity and acceleration, noting that 9.8 m/s² (acceleration due to gravity) cannot be directly compared to the speed of light (3.00 x 10^8 m/s).
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that light is not affected by gravity, suggesting that this view is incorrect and warrants further explanation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of gravity's effect on photons, with no consensus reached. Some believe photons are significantly affected by gravity, while others propose that their interaction is more nuanced, following the curvature of spacetime.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various concepts such as escape velocity, event horizons, and gravitational lensing without fully resolving the implications of these ideas. There are also misunderstandings regarding the comparison of acceleration and velocity.

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Some days ago some body posted a question saying are photons effected by gravity but was unanswered straightly. Here is the answer: Yes they are. They will be completely be stopped if an escape velocity of a planet is greater than the speed of light.
 
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First off, its 'photon'. Secondly, light isn't so much "affected" by gravity as it just follows the path of least resistance through space just as any object would. So if gravity were strong enough to form a rather deep gravity well, then light would bend through the path like a marble encountering a dent in the floor it's rolled across. That's how gravitational lensing works. Starlight encounters the gravity well of a rather large mass (star) and follows the curvature of spacetime forming an image of a star blocked from view by the object. A black hole can form a large enough gravity well to pull light beyond the event horizon were it can't escape.
 
really?

I was reading like: If at all a photons tries to escape a black hole in which the escape velocity is higher than the speed of light the photon will never be able to escape. Is that not true? ofcource a photon is bearly affected. Like i said i am telling an answer. What is 9.8 m/s compaered to 3.00*10^8?
 
A black hole, by definition, is a body whose escape velocity is, at some altitude, greater than the speed of light. The mathematical surface surrounding such a body is called an 'event horizon.' On or inside this surface, the escape velocity exceeds c.

And the number 9.8 is not a velocity -- it's an acceleration -- m/s2. You cannot compare a velocity and an acceleration, because they mean different things.

- Warren
 
Originally posted by anil
Some days ago some body posted a question saying are photons effected by gravity but was unanswered straightly. Here is the answer: Yes they are. They will be completely be stopped if an escape velocity of a planet is greater than the speed of light.

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BTW.. "Secondly, light isn't so much "affected" by gravity" this is incorrect it is. see explanantion
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good topic!
Dx :wink:
 


Originally posted by Dx
see this site answer


BTW.. "Secondly, light isn't so much "affected" by gravity" this is incorrect it is. see explanantion
ans2

good topic!
Dx :wink:

Well I sort of ment not in the way that gravity affects objects with mass.
 

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