How can I solve the Magnetic Field Integral for a current loop?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the magnetic field integral for a current loop, specifically focusing on the integral expression involving the magnetic field component B_z. Participants are exploring various substitution techniques and trigonometric identities to simplify the integral.

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  • Participants discuss the substitution of variables and the transformation of integral limits. There is an exploration of trigonometric identities, particularly involving arctangent and sine functions, to evaluate the integral. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of angles and the simplification of expressions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing suggestions and checking each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of trigonometric functions, and there is an acknowledgment of potential errors in earlier steps. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the simplification of the final expression.

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I need to do the following integral:

[itex]B_z=\frac{\mu_0 I N a^2}{2} \int_{0}^{L} (a^2+(z-z')^2)^{-\frac{3}{2}} dz'[/itex]

so far i have set [itex]x=z-z' \Rightarrow dx=-dz'[/itex] and the limits also change to give

[itex]B_z = - \frac{\mu_0 I N a^2}{2} \int_{z}^{z-L} \frac{dx}{(a^2+x^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}=\frac{\mu_0 I N a^2}{2a^3} \int_{z-L}^{z} \frac{dx}{(1+(\frac{x}{a})^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}[/itex]

im having trouble with the power of 3/2 as otherwise its just a standard integral to arctan. any advice?
 
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latentcorpse said:
I need to do the following integral:

[itex]B_z=\frac{\mu_0 I N a^2}{2} \int_{0}^{L} (a^2+(z-z')^2)^{-\frac{3}{2}} dz'[/itex]

so far i have set [itex]x=z-z' \Rightarrow dx=-dz'[/itex] and the limits also change to give

[itex]B_z = - \frac{\mu_0 I N a^2}{2} \int_{z}^{z-L} \frac{dx}{(a^2+x^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}=\frac{\mu_0 I N a^2}{2a^3} \int_{z-L}^{z} \frac{dx}{(1+(\frac{x}{a})^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}[/itex]

im having trouble with the power of 3/2 as otherwise its just a standard integral to arctan. any advice?
You can evaluate this integral using exactly the same substitution. Try letting

[tex]\frac{x}{a} = \tan\theta[/tex]

and see where it takes you.
 
cheers. this gives

[itex]\frac{\mu_0 I N}{2a} \int_{\arctan{(\frac{z-L}{a})}}^{\arctan{(\frac{z}{a})}} \frac{1}{\sec{\theta}} d \theta =\frac{\mu_0 I N}{2a} \int_{\arctan{(\frac{z-L}{a})}}^{\arctan{(\frac{z}{a})}} \cos{\theta} d \theta =\frac{\mu_0 I N}{2a} [\sin{\theta}]_{\theta=\arctan{(\frac{z-L}{a})}}^{\arctan{(\frac{z}{a})}}[/itex]

how do i evaluate sin theta at these points though?
 
Draw a right triangle, such than one of the angles, theta, has arctan z/a. Then find the sin of that angle.
 
i can draw it if tan theta = z/a but what would it look like if arctan theta = z/a?
 
latentcorpse said:
i can draw it if tan theta = z/a but what would it look like if arctan theta = z/a?

You have something like sin(arctan z/a). The term inside the bracket is an angle (let's call it alpha). As it is an angle, you can express it as arcsin something. So you need to know sine alpha, right? And you already know tan alpha.
 
so now i get:

[itex]B_z=\frac{\mu_0 I N}{2a} [\frac{z}{\sqrt{z^2+a^2}}-\frac{z-L}{\sqrt{(z-L)^2+a^2}}][/itex]

is there anyway to further simplify this or am i done?
 
latentcorpse said:
so now i get:

[itex]B_z=\frac{\mu_0 I N}{2a} [\frac{z}{\sqrt{z^2+a^2}}-\frac{z-L}{\sqrt{(z-L)^2+a^2}}][/itex]

is there anyway to further simplify this or am i done?

You seem to have an extra factor of [tex]\frac{1}{a}[/tex]...It probably arose when you did your substitution: [tex]dx=a\sec^2\theta d \theta[/tex]
 
cheers. but the rest of it is correct?
 

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