Can't Dig to China: Man Finds Out The Hard Way

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario where a man drills a cylindrical tunnel through a globe, starting from America, to explore the question of whether one would reach China. Participants are tasked with determining the volume of material left in the globe after the tunnel is created, considering various mathematical implications and assumptions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses the initial question about the volume of material left after drilling a tunnel of length 'L' through the globe.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of the tunnel's radius, suggesting that as the radius tends to zero, the volume approaches a specific formula involving 'L'.
  • A different viewpoint argues that the question is complete without needing to consider the radius of the tunnel.
  • Further contributions detail the relationship between the radius of the globe and the radius of the tunnel, introducing equations to calculate the volume of the tunnel and the missing volume at the ends due to the globe's curvature.
  • Some participants note that the volume can be inferred to depend solely on 'L', allowing for a conclusion without integration.
  • There are informal exchanges regarding typographical errors in the posts, indicating a light-hearted tone amidst the technical discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of considering the tunnel's radius in the calculations. While some argue it is essential, others believe the question can be resolved without it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive approach to calculating the volume.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical relationships and assumptions, such as the dependence of the volume on the radius of the tunnel and the length of the tunnel, but these assumptions are not universally accepted or agreed upon.

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I hope this is not old too...

A man decides the find out for himself whether or not "if you dig a hole straight down from America, you get to China". So he grabs his beautiful rosewood globe and drills a cylindrical tunnel diametrically through it, starting from America. He finds the other end is far from China... in fact it's in the southern hemispere.

So here's the question : If the length of the tunnel measured along its wall is 'L', what the volume of the material left in the globe after drilling out the tunnel ?
 
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Gokul43201 said:
I hope this is not old too...

A man decides the find out for himself whether or not "if you dig a hole straight down from America, you get to China". So he grabs his beautiful rosewood globe and drills a cylindrical tunnel diametrically through it, starting from America. He finds the other end is far from China... in fact it's in the southern hemispere.

So here's the question : If the length of the tunnel measured along its wall is 'L', what the volume of the material left in the globe after drilling out the tunnel ?

Surely the radius of the tunnel is important too?

As r tends to zero the volume tends to:

[tex]\pi(\frac{L^3}{6} - Lr^2)[/tex]

where r is the radius of the tunnel.
 
jcsd said:
Surely the radius of the tunnel is important too?

No, the question is complete !
 
Of course! The length of the tunnel is dependent on it's radius, so it's going to disappear in the final equation.
 
Okay the missing parts of the globe are made up of the volume of the tunnel plus extra missing volume from the ends due to curved surface of the globe.

If we define R as the radius of the globe and r as a radius of a section of the circle of the tunnel we can define a length a:

[tex]R^2 - a^2 = r^2[/tex]

As when a = L/2, r = the radius of the tunnel, the volume of the tunnel is given by:

[tex]\pi LR^2 - \frac{\pi L^3}{4}[/tex]


To find the area of the 'missing volume' at the ends we can us tehe fact that a radius of a cross section is

[tex]\pi R^2 - \pi a^2[/tex]

So the volume of the 'missing ends' is given by (the factor of 2 appears as there are 2 of them):
[tex]2\int^{R}_{L/2} (\pi R^2 - \pi a^2) da = 2\left[\pi R^2 a - \frac{\pi a^3}{3}\right]^{R}_{L/2}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{4R^3\pi}{3} - \pi L R^2+ \frac{\pi L^3}{12}[/tex]

therfore the volume of left is (the volume of the sphere - the volume of the cynclinder and the 'ends':

[tex]\frac{4R^3\pi}{3} - \frac{4R^3\pi}{3} + L\pi R^2 - \frac{\pi L^3}{12} - \pi LR^2 + \frac{\pi L^3}{4}[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{\pi L^3}{6}[/tex]

(barring any silly mistakes).
 
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Neat problem. My initial reaction also was that we would need the radius of the tunnel. Tricky.



Njorl
 
Infact I've just relaized looking at my first post, if you know that the voulem is dependt only on L you can guess from the fact that as r tends to zero the volume tends to:

[tex]\frac{\pi L^3}{6}[/tex]

without haveing to integrate.
 
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jcsd said:
Infact I've just relaized looking at my first post, if you know that the voulem is dependt only on L you can guess from the fact that as r tends to zero the volume tends to:

[tex]\frac{\pi L^3}{6}[/tex]

without haveing to integrate.

Exactly !
jcsd with the point (I'm feeling generous, so I'll ignore the spellings).
 
Gokul43201 said:
Exactly !
jcsd with the point (I'm feeling generous, so I'll ignore the spellings).

oi! there called typos :biggrin:
 
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And don't say: they're called typos.
 
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Okay ! Guess it's hard to type correctly when you're drowning.
 

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