I'm sorry, marcus, but strings continue to dominate high energy theory

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The discussion revolves around the current state and future of string theory in high energy physics, particularly in relation to cosmological observations such as the accelerating expansion of the universe. Participants explore the implications of string theory's development, its challenges, and the ongoing debates surrounding its validity and relevance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that string theory continues to dominate high energy theory, citing its historical resilience and the discovery of D-branes and dualities as pivotal moments.
  • Concerns are raised about the ability of string theory to accommodate a positive cosmological constant and the implications for understanding de Sitter space.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the current approaches to integrating string theory with cosmological observations, suggesting that the field is still in its infancy.
  • Another participant comments on the statistical information related to string research, suggesting it may reveal future directions for the field.
  • There are multiple posts criticizing thread behavior, particularly regarding repeated bumping of the thread and perceived provocations in interactions between participants.

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Participants express differing views on the validity and future of string theory, with some defending its relevance and others questioning the behavior of specific individuals in the thread. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on the main issues raised.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference ongoing debates about string theory's consistency and its ability to address current cosmological challenges, indicating a lack of settled understanding in these areas.

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I'm sorry, marcus, but as you well know, strings continue to dominate high energy theory, despite your efforts to fool people into somehow doubting this. In fact, marcus, strings have gone through a number of (relatively) barren periods, the last one ending when D-branes and dualities where discovered ushering in the so-called second string revolution. However, these tools may have taken us as far as they can on their own, so we need to find new ones that will help us see more deeply into a vast, complex and profound theory which has already changed utterly and permanently the way we think about quantum theory, but whose underlying principles have yet to be discovered or fully understood.

One high profile issue at the moment is how to accommodate in strings the observation that the universe is in a period of accelerating expansion. The obvious approach (although not necessarily the correct one; strings could - and in my view probably will - surprise us) is to invoke the idea of a positive cosmological constant and hence study within string theory the simplest solution to einstein's equations that has one, namely de sitter space.

However, there are problems to solve in relation to treating de sitter space by string theory in it's present form, and string theorists by and large do not find any of the current approaches to this issue convincing. In fact, we feel not that strings have "crashed" but that we simply haven't learned enough about what string theory actually is to clear this very interesting hurdle (that is, if it is a hurdle).

The general level of faith in string theory really hasn't been shaken very much by any of this since, really, string research is still widely viewed as being in it's infancy, with this by now familiar cycling between periods of consolidation and discovery not being viewed as reason to change fields. In fact, university physics departments are as keen on hiring string theorists as they've ever been.

This would of course change if strings could be shown to be inconsistent, but so far - unlike every other approach - it has passed everyone of the many and nontrivial consistency checks put to it.
 
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jeff said:
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Great idea!
 
Please see initial post
 
Jeff this is really poor thread behavior, bumping your own thread up with meaningless posts and flooding the board with highly similar threads. Do we really need cheap tactics like this?
 
Is it acceptable for marcus to raise an issue, and then after I respond to it, follow up with a post that says in effect, "since nobody has responded to this issue..." etc. You get the idea. If you can't see the provocation in marcus's behaviour, you need your head examined.
 
The statistical information is really quite revealling and is opening up insight as to the direction research in strings might be going? As stated before, deep thinkers are incubating I'm sure, and the deeper insights have yet to surface.

One of the important questions is to see where minds have focused within the context of Membranes and LQG. Their are all trying to describe the dance of the bee?:smile:

I hope some will accept the humour of it.
 
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jeff said:
Is it acceptable for marcus to raise an issue, and then after I respond to it, follow up with a post that says in effect, "since nobody has responded to this issue..." etc. You get the idea. If you can't see the provocation in marcus's behaviour, you need your head examined.

As far as I can see there is no post by Marcus on this thread. There are three posts by you in a row.
 
selfAdjoint said:
As far as I can see there is no post by Marcus on this thread. There are three posts by you in a row.

Have you got rocks in your head? My comment obviously wouldn't apply to a thread I started since marcus would never post to it. Look in the "strings crash lessons" thread at his post after my posting of keywords.
 
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No I don't have rocks in my head, and with all due respect you are getting very close to an abusive flamer. This is my last post on this thread.
 
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Hey Jeff what does it mean to be PF contributor?
 
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Sorry nevermind I figured it out-- you pay for your account
 

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