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| Apr10-09, 05:47 PM | #1 |
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could GR generalized to non-integer dimension??
let us suppose that the dimension of space time is NOT an integer then , could we generalize GR to obtain an expressions of Tensor, Covariant derivatives... in arbitrary dimensions ?? let us say 4.567898.. or similar, i mean GR in non integer dimensions of space time
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| Apr10-09, 06:03 PM | #2 |
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| Apr10-09, 06:16 PM | #3 |
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| Apr10-09, 07:42 PM | #4 |
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could GR generalized to non-integer dimension??
Apparently there are some speculative theories of quantum gravity in which spacetime has a fractal structure. On a macroscopic scale, everything is 4-dimensional as in classical relativity. The suggestion is that as you zoom in to quantum scales, the fractal dimension continuously reduces to a lower value, e.g. 2 in the limit. On Planck scales, spacetime becomes a self-similar fractal, it is suggested, so as you zoom in even further there is nothing more to see, just a copy of what you've already seen. Apparently a 2D version of quantum gravity is much easier than higher dimensions. Not that I understand quantum theory, or fractal theory, very well.
Reference: Jurkiewicz, Loll and Ambjorn, "Using Causality to Solve the Puzzle of Quantum Spacetime", Scientific American, July 2008. On page 1, follow the link to "Zooming in on Spacetime". |
| Apr10-09, 07:50 PM | #5 |
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Fractals are not even manifolds, much less differentiable manifolds. The answer to your question is no, although may be one day someone will find a sweeping generalization of the manifold concept that includes fractals; such a generalization has not been found in mainstream math or physics to date.
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| Apr11-09, 01:18 PM | #6 |
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| Apr11-09, 01:58 PM | #7 |
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I was also thinking along the lines of post #5....but as always approximations might provide an alternative depending on the scales of investigation....
In addition another physical variation is the possibility dimensionality limitations suggested by string theory T duality..insensitivity to size R or 1/R... And even Planck scale minimums from quantum theory might thwart GR in any formulation to date.... So there seem to be several different views of space/time that are not very smooth nor even classical in concept...more to come, I'm sure... |
| Apr12-09, 08:11 AM | #8 |
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But, when applying Dimensional regularization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_regularization in the sense of T'Hooft and Veltmann , so the dimension -d- is not an integer how can we apply it ?? |
| Apr12-09, 09:31 PM | #9 |
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Dimensional regularization is just a formal trick for taming integrals, it is not equivalent to a geometric consideration of non-integer dimensions: 4 - epsilon etc has symbolic (mathematical) meaning only, not physical meaning, except that the trick leads to correct answers when tested against experiment.
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