Need help Proving quadriatic equation

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The discussion centers around proving the quadratic equation, specifically through methods such as completing the square and manipulating the equation algebraically. Participants explore different approaches and clarify steps involved in the process.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to prove the quadratic equation and shares their initial steps.
  • Another participant suggests working backwards from the quadratic formula and outlines a series of algebraic manipulations to derive the equation.
  • Some participants propose completing the square as a more effective method to prove the quadratic equation.
  • A later reply critiques the original attempt at completing the square, providing a corrected approach and explaining the reasoning behind adding a squared term.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of understanding why certain steps, such as adding the square, are necessary in the process of completing the square.

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Participants present multiple competing views on the best method to prove the quadratic equation, with no consensus reached on a single approach.

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Some steps in the algebraic manipulations are not fully resolved, and there are assumptions made about the understanding of completing the square that may not be shared by all participants.

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I need help proving the quadriatic equation... this is all i got up to:

ax(squared)+bx+(b/2)quantity squared= -c+(b/2)quantity squared

:frown:

sorry.. i kind of don't know how to use the other codes!
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Work your way backwards, then reverse the steps so you know the way forwards.

[tex]x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}[/tex]

Multiply both sides by 2a

[tex]2ax = -b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}[/tex]

Add b to both sides

[tex]2ax + b = \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}[/tex]

Square both sides

[tex]4a^2x^2 + 4abx + b^2 = b^2 - 4ac[/tex]

Subtract [itex]b^2[/itex] from both sides

[tex]4a^2x^2 + 4abx = - 4ac[/tex]

Add 4ac to both sides

[tex]4a^2x^2 + 4abx + 4ac = 0[/tex]

Divide both sides by 4a

[tex]ax^2 + bx + c = 0 \ \dots \ (a \neq 0)[/tex]

So, to go forwards, do the opposite of those actions in reverse order:

Multiply both sides by 4a
Subtract 4ac from both sides
Add [itex]b^2[/itex] to both sides
Square root both sides
Subtract b from both sides
Divide both sides by 2a
 
Or better is to complete the square on the original eqaution.
 
matt grime said:
Or better is to complete the square on the original eqaution.

Exactly what I was going to say. Just complete the square with variables.
 
Actually, the original post was trying to complete the square. Unfortunately, she was doing it wrong:

After writing ax2+ bx= -c, divide both sides by a: x2+ (b/a)x= -c/a.

NOW complete the square: the coefficient of x is (b/a) so we square half of that and add (b/2a)2 to both sides:
x2+ (b/a)x+ (b/2a)2= (b/2a)2- c/a

princesscharming26, do you understand WHY you add that square?

It's because x2+ (b/a)x+ (b/2a)2= (x+ b/2a)2.

Now you have (x+ b/2a)2= b2/4a- c/a= (b2- 4ac)/(2a).
 

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