Why is Physics GRE more difficult than that of Mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the perceived difficulty of the Physics GRE compared to the Mathematics GRE. Participants explore reasons for this difference, including the nature of the subjects, the need for memorization in physics, and personal experiences with preparation.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that mathematics is more pure and can be approached without extensive preparation, while physics requires knowledge of specific relationships and facts.
  • Others argue that physics involves remembering many terms and equations, making it inherently more challenging than mathematics, which allows for derivation from definitions.
  • A participant expresses a belief that being good at mathematics does not automatically translate to understanding physics, likening mathematics to a tool used to solve physics problems.
  • One participant emphasizes the value of struggling with difficult subjects, suggesting that the process of learning physics is rewarding despite its challenges.
  • Another participant shares their frustration with preparation for the Physics GRE, indicating that they are working through many problems and seeking help.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on why the Physics GRE is perceived as more difficult, with no consensus reached on the underlying reasons. Some agree on the challenges of memorization in physics, while others focus on the nature of mathematics as a tool.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention personal experiences and preparation strategies, but there are no resolved mathematical or conceptual steps discussed. The conversation reflects individual perspectives rather than a unified approach to the topic.

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Why is Physics GRE more difficult than that of Mathematics!?

Peace,
I don't know why is Physics GRE more difficult than that of Mathematics!? I can do the math test without any preparation and can score high too (practiced with two of them, the first for fun, the second to be sure ) and I am very afraid of the Physics one...I need a lot of preparation, as I have already took one :mad: . Is it because mathematics is a tool in a hand or what?
I am stuck in all these preparation advices and books. Can someone here give me a hand?

Max Born
 
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Hi Max,

Maybe its because mathematics is more pure than physics.

With mathematics, you could theoretically stroll in and ace an exam without any preparation, providing the questions were complete enough. The same doesn't really go for physics eg. F=ma is not as instinctive as a=2b

Or maybe you are just better at maths.

Just thought of another way of looking at it, imagine 1000 universes, you would need to know 1000 different sets of physics relationships to pass a physics exam in them all, but only one set of mathematics to pass a maths exam.

It only my view however.

hope that helped,
Martin
 
Perhaps it's because physics describes facts, meaning that you have a lot of terms and equations to remember? In mathematics, you can derive a lot of theorems from definitions, as long as you vaguely remember the way they did it. So, you don't need to remember a lot of stuff. But, in physics, things behave in a strict way, and there's no way to derive F=ma without tons of experiments. That makes it a lot tougher to remember everything.

That is just my guess, so don't flame at me.
 
Thank you guys for caring to asnwer me.But I really find it hard to grasp why is it tougher than maths?
I believe I am good at mathematics and I can do things in it easily. But what should I do if I love physics :) ?

I will keep on and get that tough GRE Physics, so pray for me.

Max
 
One should always seek to better themselves. Accomplishing something you find hard is always much more rewarding than affirming that you are already good at something else. If you truly love physics then it is the struggle to learn its complexities that is the most important part.

Of course the choice is yours. Good luck.
 
mborn said:
Thank you guys for caring to asnwer me.But I really find it hard to grasp why is it tougher than maths?
I believe I am good at mathematics and I can do things in it easily. But what should I do if I love physics :) ?

I will keep on and get that tough GRE Physics, so pray for me.

Max

I think a lot of people forget that mathematics, to put it crudely, is a "tool", like a hammer or a screwdriver. You use these tools to accomplish a project (solve or formulate a physics problem or principle). But just because you know how to use a screwdriver, doesn't necessarily mean you know how to build a house or a car engine. Same thing with mathematics and physics. While you use mathematics to solve or formulate physics, you don't automatically know a lot about physics just because you are good at mathematics.

Zz.
 
Zz
You are absolutely right, I have believed what you said all my life. I was just angry that my preparation for GRE Physics is not going good. I forgot things and I am working all the problems in many books.
I have even sent some to undernetphysics :)

Max
 
mborn said:
Zz
You are absolutely right, I have believed what you said all my life. I was just angry that my preparation for GRE Physics is not going good. I forgot things and I am working all the problems in many books.
I have even sent some to undernetphysics :)

I'm not sure if you meant the Yahoo Group or the IRC channel. I hope it's the Yahoo Group, because I need all the help I can get this week. I've been getting lots of boos and hisses for the very BAD pun in this week's vexer. :)

Zz.
 
It is the Yahoo Group!

mborn
 

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