Phobos is an Exceptionally Dark Object in the Solar System

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the characteristics of Phobos, one of Mars' moons, particularly its size, escape velocity, and potential future significance. Participants explore various ideas related to its physical properties and hypothetical scenarios involving human interaction with the moon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Phobos is considered one of the darkest objects in the solar system.
  • There is a shared realization about the small size of Phobos compared to Mars.
  • One participant suggests that a person could theoretically run and jump off Phobos, estimating the escape velocity to be about 3 m/s.
  • Another participant challenges this claim, stating that the escape velocity is actually about 11.5 m/s, implying that jumping straight up would not be feasible.
  • There is a humorous proposal about using a bicycle to launch oneself into space from Phobos, along with considerations of the energy involved in throwing baseballs at Mars.
  • Participants express curiosity about the potential for Phobos to be a strategic location if Mars were to be inhabited in the future.
  • One participant inquires about the escape velocity of Deimos, suggesting a connection between the two moons.
  • There are light-hearted comments about using airbags for safety in hypothetical scenarios involving travel to Mars.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the small size of Phobos and its dark characteristics, but there is disagreement regarding the escape velocity, with conflicting estimates presented. The discussion remains unresolved on the exact value and implications of escape velocity.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the feasibility of jumping off Phobos and the effects of Martian atmosphere on objects thrown from its surface. The discussion also lacks definitive conclusions about the strategic importance of Phobos.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in planetary science, space exploration, or the physical characteristics of celestial bodies may find this discussion engaging.

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according to CNN anyway...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/06/24/mars.moon.ap/index.html

funny, since Phobos is "one of the darkest objects in the solar system"!
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9578
 
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i never realized how tiny phobos was compared to mars!
 
Originally posted by Kerrie
i never realized how tiny phobos was compared to mars!

In principle, a person could run and jump off of this tiny moon. I think the escape velocity is about 3m/s.
 
mmmm I just want to put some bacon and chedder cheese in that moon and eat it
 
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
In principle, a person could run and jump off of this tiny moon. I think the escape velocity is about 3m/s.

Unprotected you would die first. It would probably be easier to just jump straight.
 
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
In principle, a person could run and jump off of this tiny moon. I think the escape velocity is about 3m/s.

Very interesting Ivan; however, the escape velocity of Phobos is about 11.5 m/sec, so you couldn't jump straight up. I can't run that fast but a good sprinter could and thus, running off an appropriately positioned cliff, he could launch himself into space. That's about 26 mph; so I could probably ride a bicycle into space;...well, at least I could throw baseballs into space.

It is quite amazing to realize that I could stand on a Martian moon and I could terrorize the Martian surface by pelting it with appropriately directed baseballs as often as I wish. It would be interesting to figure the enourmous increase in energy by which my feeble baseballs would decsimate the surface of Mars. (Assuming I could keep my baseballs from burning up in the Martian atmosphere). Or I could take a free ride on my bicycle in in a chosen direction such that I will end up on the surface of Mars (with quite an impact I might add)!

It makes me think that Phobos may one day be a very stategic place if Mars ever becomes inhabited.
Just a thought.:wink:

Creator

P.S. Thanks Phobos for the appetizing images.
 
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Originally posted by Creator
Very interesting Ivan; however, the escape velocity of Phobos is about 11.5 m/sec,

How about Deimos? I remember 3m/s for something. Still, what a concept eh?
 
More on this utterly fascinating little world...:wink:
http://www.seds.org/billa/tnp/phobos.html


Kerrie - - yep, likely just a captured asteroid

Creator - - (re: biking to Mars) Just use airbags like NASA does!
 
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Any gold there ?!
 
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Originally posted by Phobos

Creator - - (re: biking to Mars) Just use airbags like NASA does! [/B]

He, He; good point; maybe I'll give it a try.
 

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