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suppose there is a uncharged thin spherical ball (thickness tends to 0) then Does if have any capacitance if a +q charge is placed near it?
The discussion revolves around the concept of capacitance in relation to a thin spherical ball that is uncharged and has a charge placed near it. Participants explore the implications of induced charges and the necessity of a reference point for defining capacitance, particularly in the context of spherical geometries.
Participants generally agree that capacitance can be defined in this context, but there is some disagreement regarding the specifics of the reference point and the implications of potential at infinity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of φ(B).
There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the reference point and the potential at infinity, which may affect the understanding of capacitance in this scenario. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in deriving capacitance.
iitjee10 said:yes there will be an induced charge on the shell due to which there will be some capacitance
saunderson said:Yes, you need a reference point to specify the capacitance of the spherical ball, due to
[tex]C = \frac{Q}{\phi(A) - \phi(B)}[/tex]
with [tex]\phi(A)[/tex]: potential on the surface of the ball; [tex]\phi(B)[/tex]: potential on the surface, the reference point is on
If the reference point is in infinity, we know that the potential in infinity must vanish, cause only in this case the energy is finite. So we can take [tex]B=\infty[/tex] (imagine a giant spherical capacitor which outer shell is in infinity with the potential [tex]\phi(\infty)=0[/tex]). In this term we can derive the capacitance of the spherical ball!
astro2cosmos said:i didn't get the phi(B)}[/tex]. which surface do you mention here??