What is the Symmetry of Structure and Process in Biology?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of symmetry in biological structures and processes, particularly in relation to a proposed paradigm that quantifies these relationships through numbers and arrows. Participants explore the implications of this paradigm for understanding the formation and evolution of single-cell organisms, as well as the role of amino acids and mutations in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a paradigm that quantifies biological processes, suggesting that the number [4] can represent the seven amino acids necessary for forming a single-cell organism.
  • Another participant challenges the claim about the number of amino acids, stating that more than seven are required for single-cell formation.
  • A third participant mentions that all 20 amino acids are found in DNA polymerase, which is essential for cell function.
  • Further contributions indicate that there are 20 amino acids plus two special cases, totaling 22 amino acids necessary for single-cell biology.
  • One participant acknowledges their initial misunderstanding and adjusts their view, stating that 20 amino acids combine under specific conditions to form DNA strands.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the number of amino acids required for single-cell organisms, with some asserting 20 and others suggesting 22. The discussion remains unresolved as participants refine their understanding and challenge each other's claims.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the role of radiation in mutation and the conditions necessary for the emergence of new species. The mathematical steps in applying the paradigm to biological processes are also not fully resolved.

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I conducted an investigation into the strange interpretations of physics. As a consequence
of debunking those interpretations I discovered something that is truly amazing.

There is a symmetry of structure and process across and within the sub-atomic, atomic
and biology domains.

This symmetry finds quantitative expression with a paradigm that takes the form of a
structure of numbers and arrows. The first part of the paradigm is below.

The paradigm gives us the ability to describe to the absolute degree of detail, and to
predict to an extent many would not have thought possible.

The numbers of the paradigm do not represent abstractions. They represent real and
physical entities and physical process.

The number [4] on the paradigm can represent the seven amino acids which are required
in the formation of a single cell organism. Through addition the number [4] has a value
of 7, and (2) and 16 represent temperature and pressure. [4] becomes (1) through this
process and represents a single cell organism.

This organism as (1) divides into 9 and 9. Perhaps you can tell me what these two nines
represent in the sense of strands of DNA. At [5] our organism is subject to the impact of
radiation and mutates into (3). Our mutated organism can then recombine with the other
strand of DNA and forms a new species of organism.

From this simple beginning I see the paradigm going on to specify the functioning and
evolution of biology. And that is truly amazing.

You can view my essay and the paradigm at http://paradigm.blogharbor.com

Yours
Stephen Mooney

paradigm@westnet.com.au
 
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Stephen Mooney said:
The number [4] on the paradigm can represent the seven amino acids which are required in the formation of a single cell organism.

Where did you get that information? As far as I know more than 7 amino acid are required for the formation of a single cell.

Stephen Mooney said:
At [5] our organism is subject to the impact of radiation and mutates into (3). Our mutated organism can then recombine with the other strand of DNA and forms a new species of organism.

Recombination does not always occurs after mutation, and most mutation and recombination are harmfull. Radiation is also not required for the emergences of a new species, mutation occurs because of falty machineries. Most microorganism also die quicky when expose to any sorts of radiation.
 
All 20 amino acids are found in DNA polymerase, which is certainly needed for a functioning cell.
 
I did a little more research and discovered that there are 20 amino acids required plus 2 special cases: asparagine/aspartic acid - asx - B glutamine/glutamic acid - glx - Z .
So, 22 at [6] on the paradigm must be where single cell biology is formed.

Thanks for that.
 
Yet further research indicates that there are indeed 20 amino acids. These combine at [5] under temperature and pressure and then at (3) divide into two strands of DNA. Hence the two 22's at [6]. Sorry about that , I have just begun applying the paradigm to biology.
 

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