Does Time Dilation Make Me See More?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of relativistic speeds on the perception of objects, particularly focusing on whether time dilation and relativistic effects lead to seeing more of an object or different aspects of it. The scope includes theoretical considerations of special relativity and the implications of length contraction and time dilation.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that traveling at the speed of light would cause objects to appear longer along the horizontal axis, questioning if this means seeing more of them.
  • Another participant clarifies that while objects appear elongated due to relativistic effects, the observer does not see more of them; rather, they see the same amount as space/time elongates relative to them.
  • A different viewpoint is presented, indicating that at high speeds, an observer might see different parts of an object that would not be visible at slower speeds, likening it to "seeing around the corner."
  • One participant expresses confusion about length contraction, asserting that objects contract along the direction of motion, and suggests that this contraction allows light rays from the far side of an object to reach the observer.
  • Another participant agrees with the idea of length contraction but emphasizes the distinction between what is seen and what is measured, introducing the concept of Penrose-Terrell rotation, which describes how an object appears rotated rather than simply shrunken.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of relativistic effects, particularly regarding whether one sees more of an object or different aspects of it. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore various interpretations of length contraction and visual perception at relativistic speeds.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about visual perception versus measurement, and the specific conditions under which these relativistic effects are observed are not fully explored.

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I have heard that if I were traveling at the speed of light, things I'd see would appear longer along the horizontal axis. Does this mean I see more of what they are?
 
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when you travel close to thh speed of light, objects do become elongated relative to you by a factor of: L / (sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)). The objects you observe will seem to be elongated but you do not see more of them, you see the same amount, since space/time starts to elongate relative to you, the object actually does not, so you actually see the same amount.
 
Although I have heard that you would see different parts of each object, which would not be visible at slower speeds. For example, a square or rectangular object would appear to you as though you were seeing the far side of it; "seeing around the corner" so to speak.
 
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something here, but I was pretty sure that the length contracts along the direction of motion. Also about the phenomenon LURCH mentioned, I'm not entirely sure, but I think that is due to the length contraction. Because the length contracts, the light rays from the far side can reach the observer.
 
Moose352 said:
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something here, but I was pretty sure that the length contracts along the direction of motion.
Right. The measured length of a moving object is shorter along its direction of travel by a factor of [itex]\gamma = 1/\sqrt{1 - v^2/c^2}[/itex] than its so-called proper length. Thus [itex]L = L_0/\gamma[/itex].
Also about the phenomenon LURCH mentioned, I'm not entirely sure, but I think that is due to the length contraction. Because the length contracts, the light rays from the far side can reach the observer.
Pretty close. This issue here is what you see, as opposed to what you measure. Rather than a shrunken object, what you would actually see (or photograph with a really high-speed camera) would be a rotated object. This apparent rotation is called the Penrose-Terrell rotation.
 

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