Quantum Mechanics Help: Struggling with Homework

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics homework problem involving the computation of matrix elements and the Hamiltonian operator. Participants are exploring the relationships between different quantum states and their representations in terms of basis states.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of specific matrix elements and attempt to compute them using given quantum states. There are questions about the correct application of the Hamiltonian and the implications of orthogonality in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to express the matrix elements and have confirmed the validity of certain steps in the calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the states and the matrix entries, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working through past paper questions, indicating a focus on understanding the quantum mechanics module. There are references to specific entries in the Hamiltonian matrix and the need for clarity on the definitions and relationships between the quantum states involved.

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Homework Statement



I am working through past paper questions because i am finding the quantum mechanics module I am taking very hard. I don't know how to go about this question:
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Any help would be very welcome.
 
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What entries does [tex]\left \langle i \left|\hat{H}\right \left| j \rangle[/tex] refrer to?
 
well if i=v_e and j=v_u then i reckon your meant to compute the matrix element

[itex]<v_e | \hat{H} | v_\mu >[/itex]

multiply out those matrices in your first post to get [itex]v_e,v_\mu[/itex] in terms of v1 and v2 and then see what you get...
 
[tex]\left|v_{e}\right\rangle=\left|v_{1}\right\rangle cos \varphi + \left|v_{2}\right\rangle sin \varphi[/tex] for i

[tex]\left|v_{\mu}\right\rangle=\left|v_{2}\right\rangle cos \varphi - \left|v_{1}\right\rangle sin \varphi[/tex] for j
 
Still can't see how i get to [tex]<v_e|\hat{H}|v_{\mu}>[/tex]
 
Not that i know what [tex]<v_e|\hat{H}|v_{\mu}>[/tex] is or should look like...
 
well you can write this as

[itex]\left( \cos{\varphi} < v_1 | + \sin{\varphi} < v_2 | \right) \hat{H} \left(\cos{\varphi} | v_2 > - \sin{\varphi} | v_1 > \right)[/itex]

see what happens after you apply the Hamiltonian on the second bracket

also, you do know what [itex]<i|\hat{H}|j>[/itex] is - it is the [itex]ij^{th}[/itex] entry in this matrix. as for what it looks like, well, that's going to be the answer to the quesiton.
 
[itex] \left( \cos{\varphi} < v_1 | + \sin{\varphi} < v_2 | \right) \left(\cos{\varphi}\hat{H} | v_2 > - \sin{\varphi} \hat{H}| v_1 > \right)[/itex]

[itex]=<br /> \left( \cos{\varphi} < v_1 | + \sin{\varphi} < v_2 | \right) \left(\cos{\varphi}\ E_{2} | v_2 > - \sin{\varphi} \ E_{1}| v_1 > \right)[/itex]

before i continue, is this right?
 
looks fine.
now use orthogonality of the [itex]v_i[/itex] when you multiply out the brackets.
 
  • #10
latentcorpse said:
now use orthogonality of the [itex]v_i[/itex] when you multiply out the brackets.

IE. The fact that [itex]<v_a|v_b>[/itex] is the inner product of states [itex]v_a[/itex] and [itex]v_b[/itex] and that [itex]v_1[/itex] and [itex]v_2[/itex] are orthogonal.
 
  • #11
[itex] =<br /> E_{2} cos{\varphi}^{2} < v_1 |v_2 > - E_{1} cos{\varphi}sin{\varphi} < v_1 |v_1 > + E_{2} cos{\varphi}sin{\varphi} < v_2 |v_2 > - E_{1} sin{\varphi}^{2} < v_2 |v_1 ><br /> [/itex]

[itex] =<br /> E_{2} sin{\varphi}cos{\varphi} - E_{1} sin{\varphi}cos{\varphi} [/itex]

Is this right? I still need to get to a matrix somehow...
 
  • #12
ok so, i think i probably could have explained myself better earlier but nonetheless...

ok so this entry we have [itex](E_2-E_1) \sin{\varphi} \cos{\varphi}[/itex]

so you're trying to get this matrix H where the entries in H are given by [itex]<i|\hat{H}|j>[/itex] and [itex]i,j \in \{ v_e , v_\mu \}[/itex]

H will look something like this
[itex]\left[ \begin {array}{cc} \left[ \begin {array}{ccc} < v_{{e}}& | \hat{H} |&v_{{e<br /> }} > \end {array} \right] & \left[ \begin {array}{ccc} < v_{{e}}& | \hat{H} | &v_{{\mu}} ><br /> \end {array} \right] \\ \noalign{\medskip} \left[ \begin {array}{ccc} <br /> < v_{{\mu}}& | \hat{H} | &v_{{e}} > \end {array} \right] & \left[ \begin {array}{ccc} < v_{<br /> {\mu}}& | \hat{H} | & v_{{\mu}} > \end {array} \right] \end {array} \right][/itex]

so we have computed the entry that goes in the first row,2nd column

3 similar calculations will give you the other entries though.
 
  • #13
Finally got there! Thanks for your help!

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  • #14
...continuing from the same question, here is the next bit which i have tried but cannot do:

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i think i should be looking at

[tex] \left|v_{e}\right\rangle=\left|v_{1}\right\rangle cos \varphi + \left|v_{2}\right\rangle sin \varphi[/tex]
[tex] \left|v_{\mu}\right\rangle=\left|v_{2}\right\rangle cos \varphi - \left|v_{1}\right\rangle sin \varphi[/tex]

and i can kind of see that if you translate the [tex] \varphi[/tex] by [tex]\pi /2[/tex] then [tex] <br /> \left|v_{e}\right\rangle[/tex] becomes [tex] <br /> \left|v_{\mu}\right\rangle[/tex]

Is this the explanation?
 
  • #15
any ideas? I am really stuck...
 
  • #16
what's JPARC and T2K?
 
  • #17
Its a place in Japan where they are experimenting with neutrinos, i think its irrelevant to the question.
 
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  • #18
JPARC is the accelerator and T2K is the experiment name.
 
  • #19
any ideas on how to go about answering this?
 

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