Mass and Curved Space: A Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between mass and the curvature of space, particularly in the context of general relativity. Participants explore theoretical implications of mass affecting space and time, as well as the nature of gravity and spacetime geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether mass itself could be considered as a form of curved space.
  • Another participant suggests that space-time is composed of mass-energy, potentially including dark energy and vacuum particles, with protons and electrons contributing to the curvature of this space-time.
  • A different participant asserts that gravity indeed warps spacetime.
  • One contribution references Einstein's view that spacetime acts as the gravity field, where momentum and energy influence the geometry of this field, leading to changes in spacetime curvature as described by Einstein's field equations.
  • A later post proposes that the non-linear nature of space/time could imply an anti-entropic zone, suggesting a more complex structure of spacetime.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the relationship between mass, gravity, and spacetime curvature, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on interpretations of Einstein's theories and the definitions of concepts like mass-energy and curvature, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes speculative ideas about the nature of spacetime that are not fully resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring concepts in general relativity, the nature of gravity, and the interplay between mass and spacetime geometry.

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if mass curves the space around it is mass perhaps curved space itself?
 
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Space-time is mass-energy: probably dark energy plus vacuum particles.
Protons and electrons curve this space-time.
 
doesnt gravity warp space time?
 
Einstein held that spacetime is the gravity field. Momentum and energy, including the energy of mass, cause the geometry of the field to change, which is interpreted as curved spacetime. Spacetime curvature and momentum-energy are dynamically linked by Einstein's field equations; each one changes the other.
 
Can we learn from that that non-linear fabric of space/time (n_Dim fabric that is curved toward n+1_Dim) is an anti-entropic zone?
 
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