Experimenting with a Frog: A Fun Challenge?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of scaling up an experiment that levitates a frog using magnetic fields to potentially include humans. Participants explore the effects of magnetic fields on living organisms, particularly in relation to safety and the longevity of the frog used in the experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants speculate about the possibility of scaling the frog levitation experiment to humans, suggesting it could be fun.
  • There are claims that the frog remains alive and healthy during the experiment, with references to a television special that showed the frog hopping afterward.
  • Concerns are raised about the power requirements for levitating a human, with one participant noting that a 10+ Tesla electromagnet would be excessively powerful.
  • Some participants express skepticism about claims that NASA conducts similar experiments on humans, with one participant asserting that such levitation requires significant power.
  • Humor is introduced with a comment about the frog's safety around metallic objects, suggesting a potential risk in a lighthearted manner.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the safety and feasibility of scaling the experiment to humans, with no consensus reached on the validity of claims regarding NASA's involvement or the implications of using such powerful magnetic fields.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the safety of high-strength magnetic fields for humans and the specific conditions under which the frog remains unharmed. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the experiment's outcomes based on anecdotal evidence.

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I wonder if you could scale this experiment up with a human it could be fun, mind you I am not convinced that the pioneering little frog was alive for very long, if you watch the movie it also seems that only one side of its body works but maybe its just confused or enjoying itself :/

see:
http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/froglev.html
 
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It would have to be some powerful field! Also the frog didn't die. I saw a special on tv where they showed them put the frog in an later he was hopping on the table. Magnetic fields really aren't too dangerous to humans unless the field strenght was unimaginably high. There have been experiments where a magnetic pulses are used to induce current in parts of the brain but that wasn't a continuous field like the levitating one is. If you could scale it up you could float a person.
 
Originally posted by username
I wonder if you could scale this experiment up with a human it could be fun, mind you I am not convinced that the pioneering little frog was alive for very long, if you watch the movie it also seems that only one side of its body works but maybe its just confused or enjoying itself :/

see:
http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/froglev.html

The frog doesn't experience any problems. And it lives as long as any other frog. NASA does this on a human level all the time.
 
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Originally posted by Izzle
The frog doesn't experience any problems. And it lives as long as any other frog. NASA does this on a human level all the time.

Wow you sure! How does it work is it just a scaled up version ?
I want a go ...
 


Originally posted by Izzle
NASA does this on a human level all the time.
Where did you hear that ?!
 
No, NASA do not do it on a human level (heard this claim before), levitating the frogs required 'nuff power.
 
Yeah, scaling up a 10+ Tesla electromagnet to the size
of a human is a bit too much...
 


Originally posted by Izzle
The frog doesn't experience any problems. And it lives as long as any other frog.

As long as it doesn't come near a box of metalic pins & needles, where upon it instantly becomes a pin cushion!
 

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