Pauli Matrices and orthogonal projections

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the Pauli Matrices and their application in constructing orthogonal projections. Participants explore the conditions under which a matrix defined in terms of the Pauli Matrices can be an orthogonal projection, specifically focusing on the constraints for parameters involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines a matrix M in terms of the Pauli Matrices and seeks to understand the conditions for M to be an orthogonal projection.
  • Another participant suggests that to show M is an orthogonal projection, one should compute M^2 and use known identities involving the Pauli Matrices.
  • Hints are provided that lead to the conclusion that for M to be an orthogonal projection, alpha must equal 1 and the norm of vector a must equal 1.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty by stating they obtained a different value for alpha, suggesting a possible error in their calculations.
  • There is a separate question about solving the particle in a box problem using Schrödinger's equation, which is acknowledged but noted as unrelated to the discussion on Pauli Matrices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the value of alpha, as one participant expresses confusion over their calculations. The discussion on the orthogonal projection remains unresolved, with differing interpretations of the identities and calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical identities related to the Pauli Matrices, but the application and implications of these identities are not fully resolved. There is also a mention of alternative methods for verifying the conditions for orthogonal projection, indicating potential complexity in the calculations.

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This discussion may be useful for those studying quantum mechanics, particularly in understanding the application of Pauli Matrices in linear algebra and quantum state projections.

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Ok, I'm working with the Pauli Matrices, and I've already gone through showing a few bits of information. I've got a good idea how to keep going, but I'm not exactly sure about this one--

say M= 1/2(alphaI + a*sigma)

where alpha E C, a=(ax, ay, az) a complex vector, a*sigma=ax sigmax+ay sigmay+ az sigmz, and I is the identity matrix.


So, an orthogonal projection means that for a matrix P, P^2 and P dagger are both equal to P, right?

Supposedly alpha and a can beonstrained so that M is an orthogonal projection.


How would I go about doing that? :confused:


Thanks muchly!
 
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Some hints

Hey there !

Here are some hints on a was to do it :

You will only use the fact that [tex]M^2 = M[/tex]...

1) Compute [tex]M^2[/tex] :

[tex]M^2 = \cfrac{1}{4}\left(\alpha I + \sum_i a_i \sigma_i \right)^2 = ...[/tex]

You will find a term like [tex]\sum_i \sum_j a_i a_j \sigma_i \sigma[/tex]

In order to reduce this term, use some common identities :

[tex]\sigma_i \sigma_j = I \delta_{ij} + i \epsilon_{ijk} \sigma_k[/tex]

and

[tex]\sigma_i \sigma_j + \sigma_j \sigma_i = 2 \delta_{ij} I[/tex]

If you applied them correctly, you should get something quite simple. You then use the fact that [tex]M^2 = M[/tex] and you will find by identification :
[tex]\alpha = 1 \text{ and } ||a|| = 1[/tex], which is your final answer (Hopefully, I didn't mess up).

If you're not confident with the use of the Levi-Civita symbol, another (more tedious) way is to write all in matrix notation (2x2), compute M^2 and put this equal to M... You will get 4 equations, which will reduce to the answer given above.

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Florian
 
i must've screwed something up, for I'm getting a sqrt(2) for my alpha?

maybe i screwed up something with the identities...
 
oh, and i almost forgot, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
 
can we solve the particle in a box problem using schrodingers equation?
 
mayriluseeya said:
can we solve the particle in a box problem using schrodingers equation?

Sure, it's easy; they do it in Halliday and Resnick.

(But not with the Pauli spin matrices.)
 

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