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Old Dec24-09, 02:23 AM       Last edited by FeDeX_LaTeX; Dec24-09 at 08:47 AM..            #1
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Master's Challenge

Prove that this is the equation of a straight line;

LaTeX Code: -\\frac{\\zeta(x)\\zeta(2)y\\Gamma(x)}{\\int_0^\\infty \\frac{u^{x - 1}}{e^u - 1} du \\int_0^1 \\frac{\\ln(1 - x)}{x} dx} - \\nabla \\cdot (\\nabla \\times \\vec{A}) =
LaTeX Code: \\frac{L^{-1}[\\frac{F(t)}{t}] \\int_{k = 0}^1 \\int_{\\theta = 0}^{\\pi /2} \\frac{d\\theta dk}{\\sqrt{1 - k^2 \\sin^2 \\theta}} \\prod_{n = 0}^\\infty \\left(m + \\frac{4mx^2}{[\\pi(2n + 1)]^2}\\right) T_n \\cos \\theta \\sum_{n = 1}^\\infty \\frac{1}{n^n}}{\\int_0^1 \\frac{dx}{x^x} \\cosh x \\frac{\\cos n\\theta}{2\\pi ix} \\int_{c - i\\infty}^{c + i\\infty} e^{st}\\int_s^\\infty f(u) du ds \\sum_{n = 0}^\\infty \\frac{(-1)^{n}}{(2n + 1)^2}}
LaTeX Code: + \\frac{\\oint_C \\frac{dz}{z - a} \\frac{\\pi}{x \\sinh \\pi x} \\sum_{n = 1}^\\infty \\frac{2^{n/2} \\sin(n\\pi/4) x^n}{n!}}{|\\Gamma(ix)|^2 \\frac{2\\pi i}{b} e^x \\sin x} + 2 + \\sum_{i,j} [\\sigma_0^m, \\sigma_i^{m - 1}] \\cdot [\\sigma_i^{m - 1}, \\sigma_j^{m - 2}] + \\int_{\\partial S} \\omega - \\int_S d\\omega - \\int_0^1 \\ln x \\ln(1 + x) dx - \\eta(2) - 2\\eta(1) ,

where ζ is Riemann's zeta function, Γ(x) is the gamma function, ∇ is the del operator, L-1 denotes the inverse Laplace transform, Tn is the nth Chebyshev polynomial of the first kind, C is a simple closed curve bounding a region having z = a as an interior point, σ0m is a simplex of an oriented simplicial complex and [σm, σm - 1] is an incidence number, S is a compact, orientable, differentiable k-dimensional manifold with boundary in En and ω is a (k - 1)-form in En, defined, and C1 at all points of S, and η(x) is Dirichlet's eta function.

[ Credit to Zhylliolom. ]

EASIER CHALLENGE:

LaTeX Code: \\frac{y(e^{\\pi i})}{(acos^2(\\int_{}^{}e^{x^2})+asin^2(\\int_{}^{}e  ^{x^2}))b} = \\frac{x(z+1)(z-1)}{b(z^2-1)} + \\frac{gcd(p, p-1)}{a}

Where p is a prime number.

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Old Dec24-09, 07:00 AM                  #2
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Re: Master's Challenge

um... wow?

I always knew straight lines were a tricky subject...
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Old Dec24-09, 07:14 AM                  #3
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Re: Master's Challenge

I'll take one (and only one) step... subtract 2 from both sides!
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Old Dec24-09, 07:27 AM                  #4
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Re: Master's Challenge

Don't you want to at least set the equation to zero?!?
But you have a point there... that little 2 seems kind of out of place.

Oh and just wondering, but is this a real problem? Even though this maths is way out of my league, I usually can sense when something isn't worth solving.
Seriously... all that to prove it's a line? Would it even be a "omg, that's really cool" moment if it were solved?
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Old Dec24-09, 08:45 AM                  #5
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Re: Master's Challenge

Sorry, worded badly.

Prove that this equation is identical to y = mx + c

It's actually surprisingly easy once you solve the first part - you'll notice that it isn't that complex at all.

Try the easier challenge at the bottom if you're having trouble.
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Old Dec24-09, 05:29 PM                  #6
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Re: Master's Challenge

OK, I'm pretty sure that even I can solve the easier challenge.

Start with the equation:

LaTeX Code: \\frac{y(e^{\\pi i})}{(acos^2(\\int_{}^{}e^{x^2})+asin^2(\\int_{}^{}e  ^{x^2}))b} = \\frac{x(z+1)(z-1)}{b(z^2-1)} + \\frac{gcd(p, p-1)}{a}

First, let's work on the left side. Since LaTeX Code: e^{\\pi i}=-1 , the equation simplifies to:

LaTeX Code: -\\frac{y}{(acos^2(\\int_{}^{}e^{x^2})+asin^2(\\int_{}  ^{}e  ^{x^2}))b} = \\frac{x(z+1)(z-1)}{b(z^2-1)} + \\frac{gcd(p, p-1)}{a}

Then, factoring out the a and realizing that the cosine squared plus the sine squared of any number or function is 1 (I assume it is for that integral, at least)... we get this.

LaTeX Code: -\\frac{y}{a b} = \\frac{x(z+1)(z-1)}{b(z^2-1)} + \\frac{gcd(p, p-1)}{a}

OK, the left side is probably as simple as we can get it. Now to the right side. First, I note that LaTeX Code: (z+1)(z-1)=(z^2-1) , thus changing the equation to:

LaTeX Code: -\\frac{y}{a b} = \\frac{x}{b} + \\frac{gcd(p, p-1)}{a}

Next, if I remember right, the gcd of any prime number with any other number is 1, so...

LaTeX Code: -\\frac{y}{a b} = \\frac{x}{b} + \\frac{1}{a}

Now, let's multiply x/b by a, and 1/a by b.

LaTeX Code: -\\frac{y}{a b} = \\frac{a x}{a b} + \\frac{b}{a b}

Now, finally, we multiply all sides by a*b to get...

LaTeX Code: -y=ax+b

Which is the equation of a line.

Did I do good?
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Old Dec24-09, 08:54 PM                  #7
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Re: Master's Challenge

Originally Posted by Char. Limit View Post
Next, if I remember right, the gcd of any prime number with any other number is 1
This isn't quite right. For example, consider LaTeX Code: \\gcd{(7,14)} which, while LaTeX Code: 7 is prime, is clearly equal to LaTeX Code: 7 . Perhaps what you meant is that LaTeX Code: \\gcd{(p,q)} = 1 whenever LaTeX Code: p is prime and LaTeX Code: q/p \\notin \\mathbb{N} . Either way, the result in this particular instance is the same.
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Old Dec24-09, 09:05 PM                  #8
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Originally Posted by jgens View Post
This isn't quite right. For example, consider LaTeX Code: \\gcd{(7,14)} which, while LaTeX Code: 7 is prime, is clearly equal to LaTeX Code: 7 . Perhaps what you meant is that LaTeX Code: \\gcd{(p,q)} = 1 whenever LaTeX Code: p is prime and LaTeX Code: q/p \\notin \\mathbb{N} . Either way, the result in this particular instance is the same.
But the problem says LaTeX Code: gcd(p,p-1) so if you had 7 as your prime, the other should be 6, not 14.
Char.limit just mixed up his words a bit, but he's still right.

And yes, you did good
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Old Dec24-09, 09:31 PM                  #9
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Originally Posted by Mentallic View Post
But the problem says LaTeX Code: gcd(p,p-1)
I understand what the problem says; my point was that Char. Limit's statement was incorrect. The LaTeX Code: \\gcd of two numbers where one of them is prime is not necesarrily LaTeX Code: 1 as he/she stated during the proof. While it does not matter in this particular problem, it is of crucial importance of other problems.
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Old Dec24-09, 09:54 PM                  #10
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Re: Master's Challenge

Which is why I believe he just wasn't thinking when he said that, considering how wrong his statement obviously is.

Anyway, who will take a shot at the "master's challenge"?
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Old Dec25-09, 12:12 AM                  #11
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Re: Master's Challenge

Sorry about that, I meant to write "the other number", but I was thinking about possibilities in the gcd and wrote "any" instead.

"The other number" is a vague thing anyway, and better to be obviously wrong than vague.

I'd gladly take up the challenge if I knew how to do anything to that other than subtract a 2.
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Old Dec25-09, 12:39 AM                  #12
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Originally Posted by Char. Limit View Post
I'd gladly take up the challenge if I knew how to do anything to that other than subtract a 2.
Same here. I can't even tell where the x and y is... if there's meant to be an x and y that is.
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Old Dec25-09, 01:19 AM       Last edited by Mute; Dec25-09 at 01:45 AM..            #13
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Re: Master's Challenge

Originally Posted by Mentallic View Post
Same here. I can't even tell where the x and y is... if there's meant to be an x and y that is.
The y is on the LHS, sandwiched between zeta(2) and Gamma(x). The "challenge" doesn't seem to require any mastery of anything other than a recognition of (or ability to look up) various identities which have been entered into the formula either as disguised 1's or 0's. For instance, the LHS of the equation reduces to y after noting that the divergence of a curl is zero, and

LaTeX Code: \\Gamma(x)\\zeta(x) = \\int_0^\\infty du \\frac{u^{x-1}}{e^u - 1};

the LaTeX Code: -\\zeta(2) is cancelled by the integral in the denominator using the above form and a change of variables.

The right hand side presumably falls to a similar sort of identity application; I would guess the last two terms are zero and the first two fractions probably almost entirely cancel. I don't see a clear independent variable on the RHS, though. Anywho, I'll let the interested figure the rest of it out.
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Old Dec25-09, 01:38 PM                  #14
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Re: Master's Challenge

Originally Posted by Mute View Post
The y is on the LHS, sandwiched between zeta(2) and Gamma(x). The "challenge" doesn't seem to require any mastery of anything other than a recognition of (or ability to look up) various identities which have been entered into the formula either as disguised 1's or 0's.
i noticed that too. there are lots of definite integrals that don't even have to be recognised as anything, and can be lumped together into one big constant... i guess the problem is to find a linear x term
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Old Dec25-09, 06:53 PM                  #15
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Re: Master's Challenge

dumbest problem i've ever seen
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Old Dec25-09, 08:02 PM                  #16
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Originally Posted by ice109 View Post
dumbest problem i've ever seen
Agreed.

This question doesn't mean anything and it's merely there to make things unnecessarily complicated. It is but a simplication problem, for those that already know how to simplify...
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