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| Feb18-10, 04:40 PM | #1 |
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k=-1 closed space
In my cosmology lectures they say that a negative curvature gives an infinite space but I was thinking what about the inside of a torus. Isn't that a closed space too???
Cant any value of k apart from 0 result in a closed space?? |
| Feb18-10, 06:46 PM | #2 |
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Remember in cosmology though, we assume a homogeneous and isotropic universe, which results in just tress types of spaces (flat, sphere, hyperboloid).
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| Feb18-10, 09:27 PM | #3 |
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As you've noted, a flat space can have various topologies, such as trivial, cylindrical, toroidal, Mobius... In the non-flat topologies, you get a preferred frame of reference, which is essentially the frame in which the circumference is maximized (as opposed to other frames which see the circumference as Lorentz-contracted). There are various exotic possibilities for the global topology of the universe: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/18368 http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0403597 One thing I didn't understand properly until recently was that in models with nonzero cosmological constants, the spatial topology is not necessarily correlated with the existence of a Big Crunch. [EDIT] I don't pretend to understand the local to global theorems, and like the OP, I would be interested in hearing more about how this applies to spaces with nonvanishing curvature. In the case of 2-dimensional space with a positive-definite metric, I do think I understand the possibilities to some extent. In the flat case, you have Euclidean geometry, which can have a variety of topologies (trivial, cylindrical, toroidal, Mobius). In the positive-curvature case, you get elliptic geometry, and all models of elliptic geometry are closed; that is, you can start from the axioms of elliptic geometry and prove results like an upper bound on the area of any triangle. I would be interested to know whether the negative-curvature case (hyperbolic geometry) admits any topology other than the usual one; I suspect that it doesn't. Making the analogy with 3+1 dimensions, I would conjecture that you only get wiggle room on the spatial topology if the spatial curvature is zero. |
| Feb19-10, 07:06 AM | #4 |
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k=-1 closed spacehttp://arxiv.org/abs/0802.2236 http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3374 and Chapter 15, Spatially Homogeneous Universe Models, in the book Einstein's General Theory of Relativity With Modern Applications in Cosmology by Gron and Hervik. A 3-dimensional torus (a compact quotient of Euclidean 3-space) can be used as a particular model of a (locally) homogeneous, closed universe that has flat spatial sections, and a compact quotient of 3-dimensional hyperbolic space can be used as a particular model of a (locally) homogeneous, closed universe that has spatial sections with negative curvature. |
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