Is Postmodernism the Ultimate Deconstructionist?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of postmodernism, particularly its views on religion and science, as well as its characteristics in art and philosophy. Participants explore the distinctions between modernism and postmodernism, the implications of postmodern thought on knowledge and epistemology, and the role of deconstruction in understanding various forms of knowledge.

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  • Some participants suggest that postmodernism rejects boundaries between high and low forms of art and emphasizes ambiguity and fragmentation in narrative structures.
  • Others reference a more popularized definition of postmodernism that highlights a loss of confidence in science and humanity, suggesting a shift in worldview.
  • A participant cites the Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy to outline postmodernism's anti-epistemological standpoint and its rejection of grand narratives and essentialism.
  • One participant notes that postmodernists are skilled deconstructionists who can challenge almost all forms of knowledge, although they humorously point out that this does not extend to their financial matters.

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Participants express various interpretations of postmodernism, with some agreeing on its characteristics while others highlight the complexities and disagreements inherent in its philosophical stance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of postmodernism on knowledge and its relationship with science and religion.

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Participants reference differing definitions and interpretations of postmodernism, indicating a lack of consensus on its core principles and implications. The discussion includes a mix of philosophical concepts that may depend on specific definitions and contexts.

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Can u explain it to me, what's is its views on religion and science.
 
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http://www.colorado.edu/English/ENGL2012Klages/pomo.html

I read that victorian era is opposite Modernism.

This is a quick rundow on Post modernism
Postmodernism, like modernism, follows most of these same ideas, rejecting boundaries between high and low forms of art, rejecting rigid genre distinctions, emphasizing pastiche, parody, bricolage, irony, and playfulness. Postmodern art (and thought) favors reflexivity and self-consciousness, fragmentation and discontinuity (especially in narrative structures), ambiguity, simultaneity, and an emphasis on the destructured, decentered, dehumanized subject.

You get that underlined part about today's art "Post modernism".
 
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In my high-school religion book, a probably more popularized definition:

- The confidence in science is gone
- The world has become unfathomable
- The confidence in humans are gone

Postmodern - Cambridge dictionary of philosophy:

... There are many disagreements ... Postmodern philosophy is therefore usually regaded as a complex cluster concept that includes the following elements: an anti- (or post-) epistemological standpoint; anti-essentialism; anti-realism; anti foundationalism; opposition to trancendal arguments and trancendal standpoints; rejection of the picture of knowledge as accurate representation; rejection of final vocabularities, i.e. rejection of principles, distinctions, and despcriptions that are thought to be unconditionaly binding for all times, persons, and places, and a suspicion of grand narratives, metanarratives of the sort perhaps best illustrated by dialectical materialism.
In addition to these things postmodern philosophy is "against," it also opposes characterizing this menu of oppositions as relativism, skepticism, or nihilism, and it rejects as "the metaphysics of presence" the traditional, putatively impossible dream of a complete, unique, and closed explanatory system, an explanatory system typically fueled by binary oppositions. On the positive side, one often finds the following themes: its critique of the notion of the neutrality and sovereignty of reason - including insistence on its pervasively gendered, historical, and ethonocentric character; its conception of the social construction of word-world mappings; its tendency to embrace historicism; its critique of the ultimate status of a contrast between epistemology, on the one hand, and the sociology of knowledge, on the other hand; it's dissolution of the notion of the autonomous, rational subject; its insistence on the artificial status of divisions of labor in knowledge acquisition and production; and its ambivalence about the Enlightment and its ideology...
 
thankyou very much
 
An important about postmodernists. They are excellent deconstructionists of almost all knowledge. They tend to be very well versed in their literature and can take be quite difficult opponents in debates. Many of them feel they can deconstruct any knowledge at all.

Well, except their bank accounts. Nobody seems deconstructionist about their money. :wink:
 

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