Many universes like there are solar systems in a galaxy

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The discussion explores the concept of multiple universes, drawing analogies to solar systems and galaxies. Participants consider terminology, definitions, and implications of having more than one universe, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • Some participants propose the term "multi-verse" to describe multiple universes, while others argue that "universe" implies a singular entity encompassing everything.
  • One participant suggests that the term "multiverse" specifically refers to universes arising from quantum effects, such as Schrödinger's Cat.
  • Another participant challenges the idea of multiple universes by stating that if the same physical laws apply, it should still be considered part of our universe.
  • A suggestion is made to use the term "Environs" to describe multiple areas of existence, based on etymological roots.
  • Participants question how to define the limits of a universe and what constitutes a separate universe.

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Participants express differing views on the definition of "universe" and whether multiple universes can exist. There is no consensus on terminology or the implications of having multiple universes.

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Discussions include assumptions about the nature of universes and the implications of physical laws, but these remain unresolved. The definitions and boundaries of what constitutes a universe are also debated without clear conclusions.

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If there were many universes like there are solar systems in a galaxy and like there are many galaxies in the universe, What would you call it?
 
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Originally posted by sheldon
If there were many universes like there are solar systems in a galaxy and like there are many galaxies in the universe, What would you call it?

A term already coined for this is "multi-verse".
 


Originally posted by jeff
A term already coined for this is "multi-verse".

Actually, I think Multiverse is being used specifically as the term that describes the different Universes produced by Schrödinger's Cat effect.

As far as there being may Universes, much like there are many solar systems, galaxies, etc... I say it's not possible, since "Universe" means "everything" or "all that exists", and you can't have more than one of those.
 


Originally posted by Mentat
Actually, I think Multiverse is being used specifically as the term that describes the different Universes produced by Schrödinger's Cat effect.

As far as there being may Universes, much like there are many solar systems, galaxies, etc... I say it's not possible, since "Universe" means "everything" or "all that exists", and you can't have more than one of those.
Bonjour,

Mentat, I like your point that "Universe" means "everything" and I would like to base my suggestion on ethymology. "Universe", IMHO, originates from poetry "one verset". Posing that the vicinity, we know, is one of many, I would suggest "Environs" (plural form of vicinity). Score it please.

Oh! What is Schrödinger's Cat effect?
 
I'd say that if the same physics laws work there, it's still our universe. I'd define another universe as one where the same laws do not work.

And I'd call it the parauniverse... :):)
 
Originally posted by Tail
I'd say that if the same physics laws work there, it's still our universe. I'd define another universe as one where the same laws do not work.

And I'd call it the parauniverse... :):)

Interesting...

But what defines a universe? How can we define the universe limits?
 
Originally posted by Doctor Luz
But what defines a universe? How can we define the universe limits?

a universe is, in essence, the largest system you can have that can still be closed. any event that happens in "another universe" can, by definition, have no obsevable effect in this one, otherwise what is to stop us from considering it a part of our universe?
 

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