Thread Closed

Open sets and closed sets in product topology

 
Share Thread Thread Tools
Apr25-10, 08:57 PM   #1
 

Open sets and closed sets in product topology


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Let [tex](X_a, \tau_a), a \in A[/tex] be topological spaces, and let [tex]\displaystyle X = \prod_{a \in A} X_a[/tex].

2. Relevant equations

1. Prove that the projection maps [tex]p_a : X \to X_a[/tex] are open maps.

2. Let [tex]S_a \subseteq X_a[/tex] and let [tex]\displaystyle S = \prod_{a \in A} S_a \subseteq \prod_{a \in A} X_a[/tex]. Prove that [tex]S[/tex] is closed iff each [tex]S_a \subseteq X_a[/tex] is closed.

3. Let [tex]T_a \subseteq X_a[/tex], prove that [tex]\displaystyle \overline{\prod_{a \in A} T_a} = \prod_{a \in A} \overline{T_a}[/tex].

4. If [tex]\abs{A} \leq \abs{\mathbb{N}}[/tex] and each [tex]X_a[/tex] is separable, prove that [tex]X[/tex] is separable.

3. The attempt at a solution

I don't know how to prove open/closed set problems in product topology. Can someone please give me some hint as to how I should approach these proofs? Some hints on each question will be even better.

1. This means that any open subset of the product space [tex]X[/tex] remains open when projected down to the [tex]X_\alpha[/tex].

Is it because the production topology [tex]\tau[/tex] for [tex]X[/tex] is the weakest topology with regard to [tex]\{ p_a :X \to X_a | a \in A \}[/tex]?

2.

3.

4. [tex]X_a[/tex] is separable means there is a countable subset [tex]S_a \subseteq X_a[/tex] such that [tex]\overline{S_a} = X_a[/tex].
PhysOrg.com
PhysOrg
science news on PhysOrg.com

>> Ants and carnivorous plants conspire for mutualistic feeding
>> Forecast for Titan: Wild weather could be ahead
>> Researchers stitch defects into the world's thinnest semiconductor
Apr25-10, 10:13 PM   #2
 
Write out what an open set in the product topology looks like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product...ogy#Definition (the second paragraph).

Based on this, where does the projection map send an arbitrary open set?

For (4), use (3): take the product of the Sa and show that it's closure is X.
Apr26-10, 02:57 AM   #3
 
Quote by VeeEight View Post
Write out what an open set in the product topology looks like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product...ogy#Definition (the second paragraph).

Based on this, where does the projection map send an arbitrary open set?

For (4), use (3): take the product of the Sa and show that it's closure is X.
Thank you very much for your reply. Here are my answers so far based on your suggestions.

1. The product topology [tex]\tau[/tex] is generated from base [tex]\mathfrak{B}[/tex] consisting of product sets [tex]\displaystyle \prod_{a \in A} U_a[/tex] where only finitely many factors are not [tex]X_a[/tex] and the remaining factors are open sets in [tex]X_a[/tex]. Therefore the project [tex]p_a[/tex] projects an open set [tex]S \subseteq X[/tex] to either [tex]X_a[/tex] or some open subset [tex]S_a \subset X_a[/tex].

2.

3.

4. [tex]X_a[/tex] is separable means there is a countable subset [tex]S_a \subseteq X_a[/tex] such that [tex]\overline{S_a} = X_a[/tex]. Using previous result, we have
[tex]
\begin{align*}
\prod_{a \in A} \overline{S_a} = \prod_{a \in A} X_a = \overline{\prod_{a \in A} S_a} = X
\end{align*}
[/tex]
Since [tex]S_a[/tex] is countable and [tex]|A| \leq |\mathbb{N}|[/tex], the cartesian product [tex]\displaystyle \prod_{a \in A} S_a[/tex] is countable. Hence [tex]X[/tex] is separable.

***This could be wrong, if [tex]|A| = |\mathbb{N}|[/tex], then the cartesian product does not have to be countable. So what is the set separable? Should the question say If [tex]|A| < |\mathbb{N}|[/tex] and each [tex]|X_a|[/tex] is separable, prove that [tex]|X|[/tex] is separable?
Thread Closed
Thread Tools


Similar Threads for: Open sets and closed sets in product topology
Thread Forum Replies
Topology Open and Closed Sets Differential Geometry 1
Open and closed sets in R^n Calculus & Beyond Homework 1
open and closed sets Calculus & Beyond Homework 10
Open & Closed Sets Calculus & Beyond Homework 15
Which sets are open, closed, or neither? Calculus & Beyond Homework 4