Is Light Moving Towards Us or Are We Moving Towards Light?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of light and its movement relative to observers, exploring concepts from string theory and the implications of spacetime dynamics. Participants consider whether light is moving towards us or if we are moving towards light, touching on theoretical frameworks and philosophical implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that light is not moving towards us, but rather we are moving towards light, suggesting that this perspective requires an external frame of reference beyond our universe.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of light being stationary, referencing historical measurements of the speed of light as evidence against this idea.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that photons are stationary 1D strings that flicker in and out of our universe, with the universe itself moving forward at light speed, creating the illusion of light waves approaching us.
  • There is a speculative idea that the universe could be constantly recreating itself, leaving ripples that might lead to alternate universes, raising questions about plausibility and possibility.
  • One participant introduces the concept of projecting consciousness to the source of light, proposing that the perception of light's movement could be an illusion tied to consciousness rather than a physical phenomenon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of light and its movement, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea of light being stationary or an effect of higher-dimensional interactions, while others firmly reject these notions based on established measurements of light.

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The discussion includes speculative ideas that depend on interpretations of string theory and consciousness, which may not be universally accepted or validated within the scientific community.

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light/energy remains in a fixed position, is propagated in the higher dimensions of string theory and the universe by virtue of the spacetime bubble expanding at lightspeed creates the illusion of light wave movement towards us. I think to check this would require a frame of reference which is outside of the physical universe given we are always observing from within the system and i don't know if that's possible.

Meaning light isn't moving towards us as a wave we are moving towards it, we just have no way of telling because the light source, us, everything, is in motion relative to everything else in the universe.

I see the light ...uh no it sees you

This makes it possible for light to be an effect of a string operating in at least one dimension and a crossover dimension of time. Time being the thing which links our 3d universe to the other dimensions. It also makes it possible for our universe to be embedded in a bubble skin which is equivalent to being trapped between 2 branes and expanding at lightspeed in a higher medium

This brings to mind the classic people interacting on a train scenario. They are moving about to and fro from carriage to carriage appearing to move in relation to each other or remaining stationary yet when viewed from outside the train the whole thing is moving forward meanwhile the sun is shining on the train and thru the windows form a point outside of the moving train...

... But what if the engine pulling it at the front is traveling faster than the later carriages so you get a stretching effect only the people on the train have no real idea just a sense of things moving awkwardly when looking out the window ?

kinda makes sense to me but please feel free to shoot it down, feed it back, whatever

thanx in advance

RK
 
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all I'm looking for is a little feedback and some pointers in the right direction...

c'mon guys what you got to lose ?

the silence is getting deafening
 
It doesn't seem valid to me. I don't get the light standing still thing; the speed of light has been measured, i.e. detected, since Roemer in the 17th century.
 
thanx self adjoint...

I'ts just something I thought about

photons are stationary 1d strings which flicker in and out of our universe.

our universe is moving forward at light speed trapped between 2 spherical branes

at every point in spacetime is a string and they are what changes as the universe passes by

so what we think is lightwaves coming towards us is actually the universe rippling by at lightspeed

we just can't tell cos we are always on the inside looking out and vibrating at rate in sync with our universe.

so the universe could be constantly recreating itself all the time and leaving ripples of itself which by an uncertainty principle could create alternate universes so alike yet different.

does that make sense, it may not be plausible or probable but is it possible ?

cheers
 
If i believe the above to be true does that make it true, if only to me ?
 
ok then...

how about this ?

I project my consciousness to the source of the light at a speed determined to be that of the light coming towards me...

...but nobody is the wiser

the "speed of consciousness" is the illusion of the propagation of light as a particle and a wave towards me...

so it's probably got a few kinks that need ironing out but...hmmmmmmmmm

cheers
 

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