What makes your, of all identities, unique to yourself?

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The discussion explores the nature of identity and self-awareness, questioning how various factors such as experiences, social relativity, and predestination contribute to individual uniqueness. Participants delve into philosophical inquiries about truth, self-identity, and the implications of paradoxes in existence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that self-awareness and experiences shape our identities, suggesting that truth is subjective and varies between individuals.
  • Others argue that understanding oneself is crucial for comprehending broader truths about the universe, indicating a connection between self-knowledge and external understanding.
  • A participant raises the question of whether self-identity is necessary for the existence of paradoxes, suggesting that existence itself is inherently paradoxical.
  • Another participant presents the case of Siamese twins as a challenge to the idea that identical experiences lead to identical identities, highlighting the complexity of individuality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between self-identity and truth, with no consensus on whether understanding oneself or understanding the universe is more accessible. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of paradoxes and the nature of identity.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the subjective nature of truth and identity, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about the definitions of self and paradox.

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Do self-awareness, social relativity, predestination, adaptation, deity or other circumstances determine who we really seem?
 
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as best we can 'guess' we are the sum of all our experiences. isn't that why there are so many disagreements about what is 'truth'. all of the influences you list plus those still unknown, filter our experience.

even two people with the same experience will have a different understanding of what it meant. each of us is unique and offer our personal contribution to/for the expansion of the universal consciousness.

we are unique and enhance our individuality through experience.

did i address your question?

love&peace,
olde drunk
 
olde drunk,

Thanks for your expansion. Which, then, is more readily understood: the truth about ourselves or the truth about everything else - or are these inseparable?
 
Loren Booda said:
Do self-awareness, social relativity, predestination, adaptation, deity or other circumstances determine who we really seem?

"Behind every door, there lies a million more..."
America

Words only have demonstrable meaning according to their function in a given context. Am I separate and distinct from the air I breath, the mother who gave birth to me, the minds of the people who know? The answer just depends upon how you choose to look at the question and, evidently, each perspective has its own particular utility. Even the perspective of no-perspective. :wink: :eek: :smile: :frown: :cry: :zzz: :mad: :rolleyes: :surprise: :redface: :devil: :rolleyes: :biggrin: :approve: :smile: :confused: :shy: :-p :-p :cool: :blush: :bugeye:
 
wuliheron,

Without self-identity, would paradox exist?
 
"...it is the choices we make, what we think, and what we do that is who we become."-Heraclitus
Although these words seem simple it amazes me how true they are and were said over 2k years ago.
 
Loren Booda said:
olde drunk,

Thanks for your expansion. Which, then, is more readily understood: the truth about ourselves or the truth about everything else - or are these inseparable?
ah, the circle widens. the more truth i have of myself the better i understand the truth about everything else.

now, i think it is hard to understand (accept) the truth about self. unfortunately, without knowing my truth the observations of everyting else can not be true. it is a subjective view and truth.

i will say this, it is more important to understand self then it is to try and define or find truth.

love&peace,
olde drunk
 
Loren Booda said:
wuliheron,

Without self-identity, would paradox exist?

Existence itself is demonstrably paradoxical.
 
wuliheron
Existence itself is demonstrably paradoxical.
I wonder whether the finiteness of a universe can determine whether it allows paradoxes to exist?
 
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Loren Booda said:
wuliheron I wonder whether the finiteness of a universe can determine whether it allows paradoxes to exist?

Formal logic is by definition finite, nonetheless it contains within it the seeds of paradox. All being finite does is supposidly limit the paradoxes.
 
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Originally posted by Olde Drunk : ' At the best i can guess we are all the sum of our experiences'

I recently saw a case of siamese twins. They have identical DNA , the same friends, the same family and have been through every experience together, yet they were still different people, and had entirely different personalities and ways of reacting to things. Can you explain this? They are completely identical, and should be the same, but arent. Thats one for you to all puzzle over.
 

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