How do I calculate the average velocity of a Honda Civic traveling along a road?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average velocity of a Honda Civic traveling along a road, with the distance from a stop sign expressed as a function of time. The equation provided is x(t) = 1.53m/s²*t² - 5.10×10⁻² m/s³*t³, and the average velocity is to be calculated over the time interval from t=0 to t1=1.93s.

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  • Participants discuss substituting values into the distance function to find x(t) at specific times, questioning unit compatibility in their calculations. They also explore the need for differentiation to find velocity and consider integration for average velocity, while some express confusion about the relationship between distance, velocity, and time.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, including direct calculation of average velocity and the use of calculus concepts. Some participants provide hints and corrections, while others express uncertainty about the steps involved and the mathematical principles at play.

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Participants note the potential for confusion due to the use of calculus concepts, with some indicating they have not yet studied calculus formally. There is also mention of homework constraints and the expectation of understanding basic physics principles without advanced calculus.

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A Honda Civic travels in a straight line along a road. Its distance [tex]x[/tex]from a stop sign is given as a function of time [tex]t[/tex] by the equation x(t) = 1.53m/s^2*t^2 - 5.10×10-2 m/s^3*t^3


Question #1. Calculate the average velocity of the car for the time interval [tex]t=0[/tex] to [tex]t1=1.93s[/tex]. answer is in m/s

here's what i think i need to do:

plug in 0 and 1.93 for t... ok so if i plug in 0 for t, it would be zero, so i skip that and go on to plug in t1=1.93s for the equation.

x(t)= 1.53m/s^2(1.93)^2-5.10 X10^-2m/s^3(1.93s)^3
5.69m/s^2 - 36.66 X 10^-2 m/s^3
x(t)=5.3m/s^2 <--- can m/s^2 be substracted from m/s^3?

ok so would that be the time? how would i caculate the average velocity as stated in question #1?


i think i need to use the formula Vf(Final velocity) - V i(initial velocity)/time

ok so x(t) would be the time right? how would i find the final velocity and the initial velocity
 
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To find the average speed you need to know the speed of the vehicle. Hint: differentiate!
 
Tide said:
To find the average speed you need to know the speed of the vehicle. Hint: differentiate!


x(t) = 1.53m/s^2*t^2 - 5.10×10-2 m/s^3*t^3
ok so d/dt*x(t) =...

v(t) = 1.53(2)m/s*2(t) - 5.10 X 10^-2 (3)m/s^2*(3)t^2

is that correct? what am i suppose to do with v(t)?
 
Now find the average! Hint: Add up the values of the speed (aka integration!) and divide by the time interval!
 
Tide said:
Now find the average! Hint: Add up the values of the speed (aka integration!) and divide by the time interval!

the time interval is x(t)=5.3m/s^2 right? did i even do that correctly?

and for the values of the speed, what am i integrating extactly? it can't be v(t), cause that would get me x(t), right? i am so confused
 
COCoNuT said:
A Honda Civic travels in a straight line along a road. Its distance [tex]x[/tex]from a stop sign is given as a function of time [tex]t[/tex] by the equation x(t) = 1.53m/s^2*t^2 - 5.10×10-2 m/s^3*t^3


Question #1. Calculate the average velocity of the car for the time interval [tex]t=0[/tex] to [tex]t1=1.93s[/tex]. answer is in m/s

here's what i think i need to do:

plug in 0 and 1.93 for t... ok so if i plug in 0 for t, it would be zero, so i skip that and go on to plug in t1=1.93s for the equation.

x(t)= 1.53m/s^2(1.93)^2-5.10 X10^-2m/s^3(1.93s)^3
5.69m/s^2 - 36.66 X 10^-2 m/s^3
x(t)=5.3m/s^2 <--- can m/s^2 be substracted from m/s^3?

ok so would that be the time? how would i caculate the average velocity as stated in question #1?


i think i need to use the formula Vf(Final velocity) - V i(initial velocity)/time

ok so x(t) would be the time right? how would i find the final velocity and the initial velocity

first of all average velocity equals d/t so once you figure out
x(1.93) then divide it by 1.93 to get the average velocity.

you made some errors in your calc:

x(1.93)= 1.53m/s^2(1.93s)^2-5.10 X10^-2m/s^3(1.93s)^3

the units seconds cancel out, so you're left with meters.
5.69m - 36.66 X 10^-2 m

x = 5.3m

This is an easy question and doesn't require ne calculus, which i haven't taken yet.
 
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That will work too but I guessed this was for a beginning calculus course. A more advanced student will recognize that [itex]\int \frac {dx}{dt} dt[/itex] is just [itex]\Delta x[/tex]. I guess you're a more advanced student! ;-)[/itex]
 
needhelpperson said:
first of all average velocity equals d/t so once you figure out
x(1.93) then divide it by 1.93 to get the average velocity.

you made some errors in your calc:

x(1.93)= 1.53m/s^2(1.93s)^2-5.10 X10^-2m/s^3(1.93s)^3

the units seconds cancel out, so you're left with meters.
5.69m - 36.66 X 10^-2 m

x = 5.3m

This is an easy question and doesn't require ne calculus, which i haven't taken yet.

ah perfect... thanks a lot, it was easily than i thought. but how did the s^2 and s^3 cancel out?
 
Tide said:
That will work too but I guessed this was for a beginning calculus course. A more advanced student will recognize that [itex]\int \frac {dx}{dt} dt[/itex] is just [itex]\Delta x[/tex]. I guess you're a more advanced student! ;-)[/itex]
[itex] <br /> <br /> Actually, I haven't done ne thing with calculus yet. I'm actually still in high school and I'm planning to take calculus this coming school year.[/itex]
 
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COCoNuT said:
ah perfect... thanks a lot, it was easily than i thought. but how did the s^2 and s^3 cancel out?


x(1.93)= 1.53m/s^2(1.93s)^2-5.10 X10^-2m/s^3(1.93s)^3


As you can see, in (1.53m*(1.93s)^2)/s^2 and (10^-2*(1.93s)^3)/s^3

the units s^2/s^2 and s^3/s^3 = 1 so they can be ignored.
 
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needhelpperson said:
Actually, I haven't done ne thing with calculus yet. I'm actually still in high school and I'm planning to take calculus this coming school year.

Oops! Sorry about that. I KNOW you'll enjoy calculus! Keep up the good work.
 
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try [tex]A = \frac{1}{2gt^2}[/tex]Therefore [tex]t^2=\frac{1}{2gA}[/tex]
 
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x(0)=0 m
x(1.93)=5.33 m
Average velocity, [tex]\bar{v}=\frac{x_{final}-x_{initial}}{t_{final}-t_{initial}}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{5.33-0}{1.93-0}[/tex]

=2.76 [tex]m/s[/tex]
 
  • #14
oops

Chronos said:
try [tex]A = \frac{1}{2gt^2}[/tex]Therefore [tex]t^2=\frac{1}{2gA}[/tex]
I am latex challenged and used the wrong expression to boot. :blushing:
[tex]D = v_it+\frac{at^2}{2}[/tex]

[tex]D =[/tex] distance, m
[tex]v_i =[/tex] initial velocity, m/s
[tex]t =[/tex] time, s
[tex]a =[/tex] acceleration, m/s
 
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COCoNuT said:
Tide said:
Now find the average! Hint: Add up the values of the speed (aka integration!) and divide by the time interval!

the time interval is x(t)=5.3m/s^2 right? did i even do that correctly?

and for the values of the speed, what am i integrating extactly? it can't be v(t), cause that would get me x(t), right? i am so confused

[tex]{\rm Average\ velocity}\ v_{avg}=\frac{\int v\ dt}{\int dt} = \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t}[/tex]
(This has units of velocity, as expected.)
 

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