Catching a Crook: Solve the Problem in 1.5 Seconds!

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The problem involves a scenario where a crook is driving at a constant speed of 85 mph, and a cop takes time to react and accelerate to catch the crook. The discussion centers around determining the time it takes for the cop to catch the crook after a delay in his reaction and acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both the crook and the cop, questioning the assumptions about the cop's maximum speed and the need for unit conversions. Some explore the implications of the cop's acceleration and the timing of his reaction.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the equations needed to solve the problem. Some have shared their calculations and results, while others are questioning the assumptions and the validity of certain approaches. There is no explicit consensus on the final answer, as different interpretations and calculations are being explored.

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Participants note the importance of unit consistency and the potential impact of the cop's maximum speed on the outcome. There is also a mention of the validity of the equations used based on the timing of the cop's acceleration.

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The professor gave this problem in class today and i have tried all the formulas and apparently I am not doing something right. I am pretty sure the answer is about 1.5 seconds. This is the problem:

A crook is driving at a constant speed 85 mph. He zooms past a cop. It takes the cop 4 seconds to react. He goes from 0-95 in 14 seconds. How long does it take the cop to catch the crook.
 
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You need to find when the position of the two cars is the same. First consider the position of the crook as a function of time:

[tex]x_{\rm crook}(t) = v_{\rm crook} t[/tex]

That one is easy because the crook travels at a constant speed.

Now the cop doesn't start until t=4 seconds. You are given the acceleration of the cop car (assume for this problem that the cop car accelerates at a constant rate and he accelerates until he catches the crook).

[tex]x_{\rm cop}(t) = \frac 1 2 a (t-4)^2[/tex]

(this formula is only valid for t>4 seconds). Do you see why it's (t-4) instead of t in that formula?

If you set the positions equal to each other, you can solve for t. One caveat here, are you given whether or not the cop car has a maximum speed? Is, for example, 95 mph as fast as it can go? If so, it will affect the way you solve the problem. Try to figure out how. If you need any more help, please post your work on the problem so we can see how you're doing.
 
Thanks that's awesome help. :)

Do you necessarily have to change the speed to meters?
 
Would his acceleration speed be the 95 since that seems like when the cop becomes constant?
 
epeake said:
Do you necessarily have to change the speed to meters?

Not if you're careful with the units. For example, mph/s, is a perfectly valid, if somewhat awkward way to express acceleration. There's no real reason to switch to meters here when you can stay in miles (or even mph*s though I'm not reccomending that).
 
epeake said:
Would his acceleration speed be the 95 since that seems like when the cop becomes constant?

The acceleration would be:

[tex]a = \frac{(95-0)\rm mph}{14 \rm s}[/tex]

which, as I was saying, you should convert to say, miles/s/s
 
this is what i came up with.

42.46t = 1/2 3.03(14-4)^2
42.46t = 1/2 303
42.46t = 151.5
t = 151.5 / 42.46
t = 3.56 seconds

a = (42.46 - 0)
-----------
14s
a = 3.03
 
Here's my solution:

[tex]x_{\rm crook}(t) = (85 \rm mph)t[/tex]

[tex]x_{\rm cop}(t) = .5a(t-4)^2[/tex]

[tex]a = \frac{95 \rm mph}{14} = 6.79 \frac{\rm mph}{\rm s}[/tex]

Solve for t when:

[tex]x_{\rm crook} = x_{\rm cop}[/tex]
[tex]85 t = .5*6.79*(t-4)^2[/tex]

You solve that for t (using the quadratic formula) and get 32.5 seconds. (You actually get 2 roots for the equation, but one of them is ~.5 seconds which is invalid, because the equation we wrote for the cop's position is only valid after t = 4 seconds.)

Now let's check something: how fast would the cop be going if he was constantly accelerating for that long? Using v = v(0) + at, I get around 221 mph.

That's a little ridiculous. Let's assume the cop car has a max speed of 95 mph. (Intuitively, you should realize that this will make it take longer to catch the crook.)

The expression for the crook's position is the same as before. The cop's position is now given by:

[tex]x_{\rm cop} = X_{\rm acc} + (95 \rm mph)(t-18)[/tex]

where Xacc is the distance traveled while accelerating. Really try to see why this expression is correct (and realize that it is only valid for t>18s).

Let's calculate Xacc first:

[tex]v^2 = v_o^2 + 2aX_{\rm acc}[/tex]
[tex]X_{\rm acc} = \frac{(95 \rm mph)^2}{2\cdot 6.97 \frac{\rm mph}{\rm s}}[/tex]
watch your units here to calculate:
[tex]X_{\rm acc} = 0.18 \rm miles[/tex]

Now we can solve for t as before:

[tex]x_{\rm crook} = x_{\rm cop}[/tex]
[tex]85 t = 0.18 + 95(t - 18)[/tex]

For which, I get:

t ~ 171 s = 2 minutes and 11 seconds
 

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