Swish and swishmax against say flash mx

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison between Swish, Swishmax, and Flash MX, focusing on their usability, features, and the experiences of users with each software. Participants share their personal experiences and preferences, exploring the strengths and weaknesses of each tool in creating animations and rich media applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a preference for Swish due to its ease of use, while others highlight its limitations compared to Flash MX.
  • One user notes that Swish is suitable for quick and simple projects but lacks the capabilities for more complex applications that Flash MX can handle.
  • Another participant mentions having maxed out their use of Swish and expresses frustration over the lack of plugin support for their version.
  • Several users share their experiences with Flash MX, indicating that it requires more time to learn but offers greater flexibility and power for creating rich media.
  • One participant suggests that tutorials can expedite the learning process for Flash MX, while another emphasizes learning through experimentation.
  • There is a mention of a specific game created in Flash MX, with one user expressing admiration for the creator's work and asking for guidance.
  • Some participants agree that Swish has a distinctive style that can be easily recognized, which may detract from its appeal for more serious projects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express differing opinions on the effectiveness and usability of Swish versus Flash MX, with no consensus reached on which is superior. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and preferences without a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in their versions of Swish, the dependency on plugins, and the varying levels of experience with Flash MX, which may affect their assessments of each software's capabilities.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals considering which software to use for animation and rich media projects, as well as those interested in learning about user experiences with Swish and Flash MX.

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What do you guys think of swish
and
swishmax

against say flash mx
 
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I liked it enough to buy it - but, unfortunately, I haven't had much time to explore it beyond puttering around. Maybe soon!
 
I have used swish for a long timel. It is very easy to use, and very useful, however to swish users u can always tell the difference between it and flash mx. I was wondering if anyone has used mx to the point where they could tell about how long it takes to get good at.

on the minus side of swish... i had gotten to the point where i had almost maxed out the use of the program, but u can do a lot with plug ins, however because of ... the fashion i got swish... it doesn't seem to allow plug ins
 
i could post some links to some stuff i have made if anyone would like to see some swish examples.
 
I have used both (though now I only have Flash MX, I ditched swish.)

Swish is nice if you just want to knock up something quick, easy and simple. However, if you're looking to make rich-media applications, decent graphics or anything like that, don't ever try and use swish. It's simply to basic, and you'll need to search for plugins and things to do things flash could do with its hands tied behind its back.

Flash = Good. :approve:

Edit: I just reread your post and realized I missed a bit.

I've used flash for about 3 years now, since Flash 3 (I think... might have been flash 4...) I would say I'm very experienced with it, and I can do almost anything with it (as long as it doesn't involve really complex maths... I'm going to learn some of that at uni :smile: ). I've learned it all by messing around, and I've only read one or two tutorials ever. Using that method, I've discovered a thousand and one things people would never find if they used tutorials... but it's taken a long time.

You'll probably (if you get flash) want to do some tutorials to learn it quick. You should have expert knowledge within about 4 months of learning. Try doing all the tutorials that come with it, and then going to www.flashkit.com, a handy site for everything flash.

:biggrin:
 
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Could you link me to some some of the work you have done in both flash mx and swish
 
swish is a very good program. i have swish and flash mx but i certainly know much more about swish. i don't do a lot of work in either of them these days because flash is not really web standard and so i am trying to keep my websites universal.
 
I don't think I've kept anything I've made in swish, only one or two simple animations.

I've made A LOT of things in flash. I'd like to point you to my site, but I'm not so sure I should. At the moment I'm trying to change hosts (my old hosts are having problemts), and my site is in shambles. I've only got a half finished homepage up, and a game called The Playground 2. I guess you can look at that, though the version that's online has a lot of errors, and is no where near completed.

Here it is:
http://amwbonfire.com/playground

I could never, ever, EVER have even considered making this in swish.
 
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OMG
did you really make that
if so you are my hero of the week

YOU MUST TEACH ME
lol
that is my favorite game of all time
(one of)
wow
 
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wow

How I still can't believe you made that

-no way u made that by yourself
wow
 
  • #11
And your only 16
I must say I am very impressed
please forgive my earlier posts
I was not saying that i didn't believe you
but merely trying to compliment you on your work
again
wow
 
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:biggrin: :smile:

And now, to be mean, I should say I didn't make that at all.

(Just kidding, of course I made it.)

Anyway, I don't think I could teach you (it'd take a LONG time). I could, however, give you the source code files for it (do you have flash?) and you can have a look around it. You could then ask me any queries you have about any parts of it.

Thanks for the positive feedback. You're the only person who's ever said anything about it! :eek:

Andy Wells
AMW Bonfire
 
  • #13
yes I agree
one thing about swish
is that you can always tell when it is swish
it seems almost fake
 

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