Trigonometry Obscurity: Solving Triangle ABC

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a triangle ABC given specific side lengths and an angle. Participants explore the application of trigonometric laws to determine the length of the unknown side and the other angles in the triangle.

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Main Points Raised

  • Xeno presents a problem involving triangle ABC with known side lengths a=5, b=8, and angle C=140 degrees, questioning the possibility of finding the length of side c and the other angles.
  • Some participants suggest using the law of sines and the law of cosines as potential methods for solving the triangle.
  • Xeno expresses uncertainty about applying the sine and cosine rules, believing they only apply to right triangles and struggles with dividing the triangle into right angles.
  • Another participant clarifies the definitions of the law of sines and the law of cosines, providing the formulas for each.
  • One participant notes that the law of cosines simplifies to the Pythagorean theorem in the case of right triangles, indicating a connection to Xeno's earlier thoughts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the applicability of the sine and cosine rules to the given triangle, and there remains uncertainty regarding the approach to solving the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the triangle's properties and the applicability of trigonometric laws, which have not been fully resolved in the discussion.

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Hey everyone,
I was looking over some old pre-calculus exams and I found this rather obscure looking question.. It's about trigonometry.

You're given a triangle ABC, and the legs are a (BC),b (AC), c (AB).
You're given the lenghts of a=5, b-8, and the angle C between them is 140.

The question is, what's the length of the leg "c" and what are the other 2 degrees?

Is that even possible?? :bugeye:
Thx,
--Xeno
 
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Are you familiar with the sine and cosine rules?
 
Of course I am!
But they can only be applied to a triangle with a right angle, and I tried to divide this triangle to 2 with right angles but it just didnt seem to work out.. Any ideas?
 
devious is referring to the law of sines and the law of cosines...

Given any triangle with sides A, B, and C with angles [itex]\alpha, \beta, \gamma[/itex] (with A opposite [itex]\alpha[/itex], etc):


The law of sines:
[tex] \frac{\sin \alpha}{A} = \frac{\sin \beta}{B} = \frac{\sin \gamma}{C}[/tex]

The law of cosines:
[tex] C^2 = A^2 + B^2 - 2AB\cos \gamma[/tex]

(and, of course, similar formulae for the other choices of angle)
 
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Notice that since cos(90) = 0, the law of cosine turns into pythagoras' (sp?) theorem with right triangles. That's the rule I assume you were talking about.
 

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