Normal force/Static & Kinetice Friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block resting on a horizontal table, subjected to an applied force and influenced by static and kinetic friction. The original poster is trying to determine whether the block will move and, if so, its acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the application of forces, the need for a free-body diagram, and the appropriate coefficients of friction to use. There are questions about calculating mass from weight and the resultant forces acting on the block.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on drawing force diagrams and clarifying the use of static versus kinetic friction. There is recognition of the need to determine the resultant force in the horizontal direction, but no consensus has been reached on the final calculations.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the calculations involving mass and acceleration, indicating potential misunderstandings about the relationships between the forces and the coefficients of friction. The original poster has provided specific numerical values, but there is uncertainty about their application.

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Ok, here is the question, which I thought was easy at first but...
A block whose weight is 45.0N rests on a horizontal table. A horizontal force of 36.0N is applied to the block. The coefficients of the static and kinetic friction are 0.650 abd 0.420 respectively. Will the block move under the influence of the force and if so what wiil be the block's acceleration?
(u=the coefficient)
I used the fs=us(Fn)= .650(45.0N)= 29.3N
fk=uk(Fn)= .420(45.0)N= 18.9N

I know that this will make the box move, but I am a little confused on where to go from here. Do I use F=MA?
Thanks!
 
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Draw a free-body force diagram. Show all the forces acting on the block. Any resultant force in a given direction will cause an acceleration given by F = ma, in that direction.

When the block is moving, which coefficient should you use, static or kinetic ?
 
I should use the coefficient of kinetic friction. Also since W=mg, do I divide the weight by 9.80 to get the mass?
 
pinky2468 said:
I should use the coefficient of kinetic friction. Also since W=mg, do I divide the weight by 9.80 to get the mass?

Yes, you have to see if the force applied will overcome static friction, if it does it will move, and friction is less strong
 
I am not getting the right answer when I use M=W/g to get 4.59kg and then a=F/m
should I use 18.9/4.59? It does not give me the right answer of a=3.72m/s(sqr)
 
When you say F = ma, F represents the resultant force in some direction. In this case, we are interested in the horizontal direction.

What are all the forces in the horizontal direction ? What is their resultant ?

You MUST draw a force diagram, else you'll get nowhere.

PS : m = 4.59 kg is correct.
 

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