A question about mixed partial derivative

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the differentiability of a function of two variables and the equality of mixed partial derivatives, specifically whether double differentiability implies the equality of the mixed partial derivatives fxy and fyx.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that double differentiability of a function implies the equality of mixed partial derivatives fxy and fyx, contingent on the continuity of the second derivatives.
  • Others argue that while double differentiability is a strong condition, it is not sufficient alone to establish the equality of mixed partials without the continuity of the second derivatives at the point of interest.
  • A later reply suggests that the equality of cross partials is generally true unless the function is pathological, indicating that typical functions will satisfy this condition.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of differentiability and continuity regarding the equality of mixed partial derivatives, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Limitations include the need for clarity on the definitions of differentiability and continuity in the context of mixed partial derivatives, as well as the potential for pathological cases that may not conform to general expectations.

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Let there be a function f[x,y]: RxR->R

Is there any connection between the differentiability
(I am not sure that this is the right English term - I meant f[x,y]= a*dx+b*dy +something of smaller order)
and the equality fxy=fyx, where fxy means the derivative of f[x,y] first by y, and than by x ?
 
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Originally posted by vacuum
Let there be a function f[x,y]: RxR->R

Is there any connection between the differentiability
(I am not sure that this is the right English term - I meant f[x,y]= a*dx+b*dy +something of smaller order)
and the equality fxy=fyx, where fxy means the derivative of f[x,y] first by y, and than by x ?

The idicated cross partials have to exist of course. Usually you wouls ensure that by requiring that f be twice differentiable in both variables.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Does that mean that double differentiability implies the fxy=fyx equality?(Or reverse plus continuity of other partial derivatives?)
 
Originally posted by vacuum
Thanks for the reply.

I think you have to have continuity of the second derivitives at any point where you want to show the cross partials are equal. Since this is just a feature of the cross partials, i.e. it's always true if you have the above conditions, you can't use it to prove the conditions exist.

Pretty generally, unless you have a fiendishly pathological function f, you can always take the equality of the cross partials for true.
 
Thanks again!
This really clarifies some things...
 

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