How Do You Solve These Blackbody Radiation Problems?

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The discussion revolves around problems related to blackbody radiation, specifically focusing on the derivation of peak frequencies and wavelengths as they relate to temperature, as well as the functional dependence of maximum values in the blackbody radiation distribution.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivations related to the frequency and wavelength peaks of blackbody radiation and their dependence on temperature. Participants discuss the need to differentiate the Planck distribution to find maximum values and question the appropriate equations to use. There are inquiries about the differences in formulations of Planck's law from various sources.

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Participants are actively exploring the relationships and equations involved in blackbody radiation. Some have provided references to external resources, while others are clarifying the definitions of terms like intensity and flux. There is a focus on understanding the functional dependence of the maximum values on temperature.

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A couple Blackbody Problems?

I'm a little confused about these two problems involving blackbodies, hopefully someone could give me a bit of insight. Thanks in advance.

1. For a blackbody we there is a frequency peak and a wavelennght peak. Let's call em v and w respectively. Now consider the derivations of the maximums dependent on temperature to prove v*w not equal to the speed of light.

Im not sure what to do here. No were in my text do they talk about the derivations for the maximums. So I am not really sure in what direction to head.



next question.

2. The peak value Mw(max) at the wavelength w(max) in the distribution of blackbody radiation increases with T (temperature). Show Mw(max) depends on T as:
Mw(max)=CT^p
where C is some constant and power p
so we have to find the constant and the power.
 
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The Planck distribution depends on the temperature. To find the maximum you will need to differentiate with respect to the temperature and find the value of T that makes the derivative = 0.
 
Right but what equations do I work with?

Any ideas about 2?
 
Hey Tide
In that page they give placnk's law as

((8*pi*v^2)/c^3)*...

But look at the following page why do they give Planck's law with the term
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PlanckLaw.html

(2v^2)/c^2

Why is the term ((8*pi*v^2)/c^3) different than the one giving in scienceworld??
 
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Hey Tide
In that page they give placnk's law as

((8*pi*v^2)/c^3)*...

But look at the following page why do they give Planck's law with the term
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PlanckLaw.html

(2v^2)/c^2

Why is the term ((8*pi*v^2)/c^3) different than the one giving in scienceworld??

One might be a flux and the other an intensity - I didn't have time to study them carefully. I recommend the orginal poster refer to his textbook for the correct version!
 
P3x,

I think for the problem at hand you should be focusing on the functional dependence which is
[tex]\frac {\nu ^3}{e^{\frac {h \nu}{kT}}-1}[/tex]
to find the peak.
 
In the Physics Formulary, it says:
Planck's law for the energy distribution for the radiation of af black body is:

omega(v,T) = ((8pi*h*v^3)/c^3)*(exp(hv/kT)-1)^-1

"Energy distribution" is that the intensity or flux?
They define the flux as P/A
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/EnergyFlux.html

:S
 
Edited:

Yes, I agree with that. It's the same as what I wrote - I just left off the normalization!
 
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So is this the flux:

omega(v,T) = ((8pi*h*v^3)/c^3)*(exp(hv/kT)-1)^-1 ?
 
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That looks good!
 

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