Do you guys believe in metaphysics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of metaphysics, exploring its definitions, implications, and the relationship between metaphysical beliefs and scientific views. Participants engage in a philosophical inquiry regarding the existence of metaphysical principles such as luck, belief in God, and the nature of reality.

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  • Some participants question the meaning of metaphysics, noting the distinction between technical and popular interpretations.
  • One participant suggests that metaphysics encompasses beliefs in concepts like luck, God, and the existence of an outside world.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the coexistence of scientific beliefs and metaphysical beliefs, particularly regarding luck and divine existence.
  • A participant argues that the scientific method is flawed, implying the necessity for a metaphysical or meta-scientific method of proof, though this claim is described as vague and requiring further elaboration.
  • A follow-up question challenges the assertion of the scientific method's flaws, seeking clarification on this point.

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Participants exhibit a range of views on metaphysics, with no clear consensus on its definitions or implications. Some express skepticism towards metaphysical beliefs in the context of scientific understanding, while others advocate for the existence of metaphysical principles.

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Discussions about the definitions of metaphysics and the implications of the scientific method remain unresolved, with participants expressing differing perspectives on these topics.

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Do you guys believe in metaphysics?
 
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KaneOris said:
Do you guys believe in metaphysics?

What do you mean by metaphysics? There's a technical meaning and a popular meaning, and they don't intersect much.
 
An underlying philosophical or theoretical principle: a belief in luck, the metaphysic of the gambler
 
Belief in God is metaphysics. Belief in the existence of an outside world is metaphysics. The list goes on. Are you asking if posters here hold any metaphysical beliefs at all?
 
Yes, I am asking you guys, as you are obviously believers in science if you also believe in, god, spirits, and luck...etc
I find it very hard to believe those things exist with my views on science.
I think that by a "law" the idea of chance is abolished. Well a little more than just the idea of laws in the universe, but basically that.
I don't believe in god, but that's just a personal view, although partially because of my views of science.
The idea of Luck just doesn't register to be possible. Even people making decisions that you might consider lucky, really arent, they are just the conciquence of other things.
Basically i just want to know if you guys can believe in both science and the spiritual world.
 
Because of the flawed nature of the scientific method, there has to exist some sort of metaphysical, meta-scientific method of proof. Of course, this statement is much too vague, and such a subject requires an entire book's length to be explained clearly.
 
dekoi said:
Because of the flawed nature of the scientific method, there has to exist some sort of metaphysical, meta-scientific method of proof. Of course, this statement is much too vague, and such a subject requires an entire book's length to be explained clearly.

How is it flawed?
 

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