Is AMD Sempron a Good Choice for Future Longhorn?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the AMD Sempron processor and its suitability for future applications, particularly in comparison to other processors like the Celeron and Athlon 64. Participants explore its performance characteristics, intended market positioning, and potential use cases, including gaming and general computing tasks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the Sempron is designed to compete with the Celeron rather than the Pentium 4.
  • It is noted that lower-end Semprons are based on the XP architecture for socket 462, while higher-end models for socket 754 are Athlon 64s with 64-bit capabilities disabled.
  • Questions arise regarding the rationale behind disabling the 64-bit function, with some speculating it may be a cost-saving measure.
  • One participant mentions that systems using the Sempron are currently available at very low prices.
  • Concerns are raised about the Sempron's performance in gaming, with a participant advising against its use for gaming due to perceived limitations.
  • Another participant references external sources suggesting that a specific Sempron model, despite its limitations, could still perform adequately in gaming due to its on-die memory controller.
  • There is a critical viewpoint expressed that the Sempron may offer reduced performance akin to the Celeron for a slightly lower price.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed opinions about the Sempron's performance and suitability for various tasks. While some acknowledge its potential for basic computing, others strongly advise against its use for gaming, indicating a lack of consensus on its overall value.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various models and specifications of the Sempron and its competitors, but there are unresolved questions about performance metrics and the implications of its architectural choices.

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Not sure!
Is it good for future Longhorn ?
 
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Seems that it is to compete with Celeron, not P4.
 
Saint said:
Seems that it is to compete with Celeron, not P4.
The sempron is an XP...for sockets 462 and 754, and it competes with celeron Ds.
 
Semprons as 64-bit-disabled Athlon 64s

alexkerhead said:
The sempron is an XP...for sockets 462 and 754
The lower (socket 462, also known as 'socket A') Semprons are XPs. The higher (socket 754) Semprons are Athlon 64s with 64-bit extensions disabled (but everything else, including onboard full-speed front side bus, left enabled).
 
why disable the 64-bit function?
cost down?
 
Saint said:
why disable the 64-bit function?
cost down?
they don't want a cpu as good as a a64 to be cheaper.. :smile:
 
Has anyone actually used this processor here?

Systems based on this CPU are selling very cheap right now.
 
The sempron is the successor of the duron. If you don't use programs that require heavy calculations then these processors are fine, but if your going to do any gaming, say away from these processors like the plague.
 
dduardo said:
The sempron is the successor of the duron. If you don't use programs that require heavy calculations then these processors are fine, but if your going to do any gaming, say away from these processors like the plague.
After raising the question here, I checked out another site that I go to sometimes. It said that the model based on the 64 with half the cache and running at 32 bit would still have the on-die memory controller which would make it a good performer for games, but the price difference is not really worth the cut in cache and loss of 64 bit capablity (it's only about $30.00 less than the 64 bit model).

Have you used one of the Semprons?
 
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Just what we need, another version of the Celeron. Half the performance for a few bucks cheaper.
 

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