What is the man's upward acceleration in this pulley problem?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a man using a pulley system to hoist himself into a tree. The man weighs 72.0 kg and pulls down on a rope with a force of 358 N. Participants are exploring the concepts of tension, forces acting on the man, and how to apply Newton's laws to determine the man's upward acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the man, including weight and tension, and question how these forces interact. There are attempts to clarify the role of tension in the system and how it relates to the forces acting on the man. Some participants express confusion about the number of ropes and the application of Newton's 2nd Law.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's 2nd Law and the relationship between tension and weight, but not all participants feel confident in their understanding yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem, including the assumption of no friction and the specific forces mentioned. There is a noted struggle with the conceptualization of the forces and their effects on the man's acceleration.

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I am stuck on this pulley problem:
To hoist himself into a tree a 72.0kg man ties one end of a nylon rope around his waist and throws the other end over a branch of a tree. He then pulls downward on the free end of the rope with a force of 358N. Neglet any friction between the rope and the branch and determine the man's upward acceleration.

I understand the basic concept if I have two masses but I only have one here, so I need some guidance!
Thanks
 
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What are the forces acting on the man?

What do you know about the tension when the man is pulling downward?
 
I am not sure that I understand. The tension pulling down is negative and the force of gravity is acting on the man?
 
On one end you got weight and tension acting on the man, what you got on the other end?
 
Isn't tension acting on the other end and isn't it equal to the other tension?
 
The tension in the rope is the same throughout.

As Cyclovenom suggested, start by describing every force acting on the man. Hint: how many ropes attach to the man? What's the tension in the rope? What's the net force acting on the man? Apply Newton's 2nd Law.
 
I am still stuck on this I know that F=MA and that the tension on the rope is equal. I guess that there are two ropes attached to the man. But I keep plugging in numbers and not getting any closer to the answer!
 
pinky2468 said:
I am still stuck on this I know that F=MA and that the tension on the rope is equal.
The tension is the same throughout the rope.
I guess that there are two ropes attached to the man.
Right!
But I keep plugging in numbers and not getting any closer to the answer!
Stop "plugging in numbers". Instead, answer the questions I asked in my previous post.
 
The tension in the rope is 358N plus the man's Weight(mg)?
 
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pinky2468 said:
The tension in the rope is 358N plus the man's Weight(mg)?
No. The man pulls on the rope with 358N. And the rope pulls on the man with 358N (Newton's 3rd law!). Thus the tension in the rope is 358N.

Continue answering those questions.
 
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I'm sorry, but I give up! I can't answer the questions, that is the problem!
 
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You know the tension right?, what are the forces acting on the man, use Newton's 2nd Law, you are almost there!

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = m \vec{a}[/tex]
 
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the force on the man is his weight(mg)?
 
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I got it! Finally, I had to multiply the tension by 2 and then subtract the mans weight! And then divide by his mass!
 
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pinky2468 said:
I got it! Finally, I had to multiply the tension by 2 and then subtract the mans weight! And then divide by his mass!
Right! The two ropes attached to the man each pull up with a force equal to the tension in the rope (total upward force = 2T); his weight pulls down (total downward force = mg). So, the net force is [itex]F_{net} = 2T - mg[/itex] upwards. To find the acceleration, use Newton's 2nd law: [itex]a = F_{net}/m[/itex] upwards.

Good job.
 

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