Bacterial metabolism, Questions ?

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The discussion revolves around bacterial metabolism, specifically the mechanisms by which bacteria obtain energy through various biochemical processes. Participants explore concepts related to energy oxidation and reduction, photosynthesis in bacteria, and seek resources for understanding these metabolic pathways in a logical and physical context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the apparent paradox of bacteria that oxidize H2S to S and those that reduce S to H2S, suggesting it resembles a perpetuum mobile and expressing confusion about the energy sources involved.
  • Another participant notes that some photosynthetic bacteria utilize the oxidation of inorganic substrates for energy despite having the capability to photosynthesize using the same substrate, prompting inquiries into the reasons behind this behavior.
  • A request for online references on bacterial metabolism is made, emphasizing a need for resources that explain the concepts in a logical or physical manner rather than purely chemical terms.
  • One participant introduces the Entner-Doudoroff pathway, questioning its significance given the low energy yield of one ATP per glucose molecule.

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Participants express various viewpoints and questions regarding bacterial metabolism, but there is no consensus on the explanations or significance of the discussed pathways. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas and inquiries.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the energy dynamics in bacterial metabolism and the rationale behind certain metabolic pathways, indicating a need for clarity on assumptions and definitions related to energy yielding processes.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in microbiology, particularly those seeking to understand bacterial metabolic processes and the underlying principles of energy acquisition.

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Please help, I have some problems with understanding bacterial metabolism. If we have bacteria who for example gets energy by oxidizing H2S to S, and than we have one that gets it’s energy by reducing S to H2S, doesn’t that seems like perpetuum mobile. I’m probably missing something here, but I can't see it (light or something?).

Then, some photosynthetic bacteria, use oxidation of inorganic substrate for energy, although they can photosynthesize (using that same substrate H2S), why?

Generally, am looking for some good online reference for general (non aerobe, non glicolitic) all bacterial metabolisms (not so much in chemical but in logic/physics way), because currently I’m lost in see of different types of energy yielding, and I need answers really fast.

Thanks!

p.s. it would be great if someone care to explain Helmstetter - Cummings technique of achieving synchronized growth
 
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The best resource would be a university level microbiology book. This summary in the following link should be usefull
http://textbookofbacteriology.net/metabolism.html

jhirlo said:
p.s. it would be great if someone care to explain Helmstetter - Cummings technique of achieving synchronized growth

You might want to read to original paper by Helmstetter and Cummings, I find it quite good at explaning their method and results.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=221258
 
I got a new one :), what about ED "entner - doudoroff" pathway, what's it's point ? So much trouble just over one ATP/glucose.
 

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