Solving for Time: Dropping a Brick from a Building

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a brick dropped from a building and its time of passage in front of a window. The original poster presents the scenario with specific distances and acceleration due to gravity, seeking to determine the time it takes for the brick to pass a window of specified height.

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  • Participants explore different methods to calculate the time, including using kinematic equations and visualizing velocity-time graphs. Some question the initial conditions and the appropriateness of the chosen distances in their calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of methods to solve the problem, with participants sharing their reasoning and questioning the assumptions made in their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of different distances to find the time taken to pass the window, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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The problem context has changed slightly due to a correction in the height of the window, which may affect the calculations discussed. Participants are encouraged to adapt their methods accordingly while maintaining the same overall approach.

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more kinetics :(

sigh here's another one i thought i knew how to do but i ended up with the wrong answer.

A brick is dropped from the roof of a building. Twenty meters below the point of release is the top of a window. How long will it take the brick to pass in front of the window which is 21.5 m tall?

d=21.5 m
a=9.8m/s
vi=0
t=?
i used d=vit+1/2a(t)^2 formula so..

21.5=0+1/2(9.8)(t)^2

did i do that right...
 
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saiyajin822 said:
sigh here's another one i thought i knew how to do but i ended up with the wrong answer.

A brick is dropped from the roof of a building. Twenty meters below the point of release is the top of a window. How long will it take the brick to pass in front of the window which is 21.5 m tall?

d=21.5 m
a=9.8m/s
vi=0
t=?
i used d=vit+1/2a(t)^2 formula so..

21.5=0+1/2(9.8)(t)^2

did i do that right...

I'm afraid you may not have. I suggest that instead you might take the v_i as the velocity of the brick at the point where the brick passes the top of the window. (d=20m) Then your equation would work, but I'm just an idiot...
I thought about this for a second and realized a simpler method would be to simply take the difference in times of d=20m and d=41.5m. (Use your original formula set up and solve for time when d=20m then solve when d=41.5, then find the difference)
 
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I don't like using formulae, and since I've not been taught more complicated kinematics at school yet, I'll do it the non-formulae way.

The brick has initial velocity of 0 m/s. When dropped, it accelerates towards the ground at 9.8 m/s^2. We want to find its velocity at the point where it reaches the top of the window. Visualise a velocity-time graph in your head. From the point of origin, you can draw a line that has gradient 9.8. We want to calculate just how far we can draw the line before the area underneath the line is 20m. Let's call the time needed to travel this distance t1. Then the velocity at this point will be 9.8t1. The area underneath the line is 1/2 x 9.8t1 x t1 = (9.8t1 ^2)/2.

So,
9.8t1 ^2 = 40
t1 = 2.020305089

Use the same method to determine the time taken for the brick to pass through both the 20 m before reaching the window and the height of the window itself (21.5m) which has a total distance of 41.5m. Call this time t2. Minus t1 from t2, and you'll have your answer.
 
I hate graphs. They are very annoying.

I'll plot them, but I just hate those who ask plot the following when x equals:

.9
.99
.999
.9999
1.1
1.01
1.001


It never ends!
 
WOW i mistyped the question, I am really sorry about that. the window is actually 1.5 m high. This is what the real problem should say:

A brick is dropped from the roof of a building. Twenty meters below the point of release is the top of a window. How long will it take the brick to pass in front of the window which is 1.5 m tall?

again,sorry

by the way, i did it the way u said but i don't understand why we would take the difference of using 20m and 21.5m.
 
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JasonRox said:
I hate graphs. They are very annoying.

I'll plot them, but I just hate those who ask plot the following when x equals:

.9
.99
.999
.9999
1.1
1.01
1.001


It never ends!

I did not say 'plot a graph'. I said visualise the graph in your head, and you'll be able to solve the problem.
 
saiyajin822 said:
WOW i mistyped the question, I am really sorry about that. the window is actually 1.5 m high. This is what the real problem should say:

A brick is dropped from the roof of a building. Twenty meters below the point of release is the top of a window. How long will it take the brick to pass in front of the window which is 1.5 m tall?

again,sorry

by the way, i did it the way u said but i don't understand why we would take the difference of using 20m and 21.5m.

Even though the value has now changed, the method used in solving the question remains the same. Hence, if you understood my method for solving the initial problem, you should be able to tweak it to work for this problem as well.

In your original question, t1 is the time taken to fall from the roof to the top of the window. t2 is the time taken to fall from the roof to the bottom of the window. Hence to find the time taken to fall from the top of the window to the bottom of the window, you need to find the difference between t1 and t2.
 

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