What is centripetal acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of centripetal acceleration in circular motion, exploring its relationship with angular velocity, gravitational force, and the nature of acceleration in uniform circular motion. Participants express confusion and seek clarification on these concepts.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the concept of centripetal acceleration, questioning the nature of acceleration in circular motion and what velocity is changing.
  • Another participant references Newton's first law, stating that without acceleration, an object would move in a straight line, implying that the change in velocity is what keeps the object in circular motion.
  • There is a discussion about whether gravitational acceleration is the same as centripetal acceleration, with one participant acknowledging their confusion about this relationship.
  • Participants note that acceleration in uniform circular motion involves a constant change in direction, which is a form of acceleration even if speed remains constant.
  • One participant clarifies that "centripetal force" is the net inward force necessary for circular motion, often provided by gravitational force in the case of satellites orbiting planets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is a need for acceleration to maintain circular motion, but there remains confusion about the specifics of centripetal acceleration and its relationship to gravitational force. The discussion reflects multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and relationships between centripetal acceleration, gravitational force, and the nature of velocity changes in circular motion. Some assumptions about the concepts may not be fully articulated.

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I'm having trouble grasping the concept of centripetal acceleration on circular motion.
I understand angular velocity. From there what my books gives me is the centripetal accel formula. ac=(v^2)/R
I don't notice any acceleration in a circular motion. Nothing's accelerating.
What velocity is changing? In what direction? How would I calculate the position of an object by it's centripetal acceleration if:
  • The object has "f" angular velocity.
  • It is at "h" distance from the object it is orbiting.
  • The object it is orbiting around has m mass.

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The first thing I thought was that the centripetal acceleration was the acceleration of the angular velocity. So in a circular motion it would have to be ac=0 or it would disrupt the circle.
But I can't make ac=0 without having either v=0 or R=0. If this was true then the centripetal accel wouldn't be compatible with circular motion.
Then I kept reading in the internet, including in this site, that some regarded it as imaginary. Then I guess thought that maybe it was used to simplify some calculations related to centripetal force for circular motion but it's still blurry in my mind.

Continuing my spoiler's line of though, then again what's the difference between gravitational force and centripetal force?

Edit:I hope this is the right section. I hope I haven't forgot to say something. I hope someone can answer. Thank you.
 
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I don't notice any acceleration in a circular motion. Nothing's accelerating.
What velocity is changing? In what direction?
According to Newton's first law, the object would continue in a straight line if there was no acceleration. The velocity change is that which keeps it in a circular path.
 
mathman said:
According to Newton's first law, the object would continue in a straight line if there was no acceleration. The velocity change is that which keeps it in a circular path.

Yes that is true. My thoughts are still blurry as I said so I have trouble asking questions about something which I don't even know what it is.
I understand there has to be an acceleration to keep it a circular orbit. But I'm still confused about the rest of my questions.
Then the gravitational accel would be the same as the centripetal accel?... I think I'm repeating myself but I thought I should reply.
 
raydred said:
I don't notice any acceleration in a circular motion. Nothing's accelerating.
Acceleration means a change in velocity. Since velocity is a vector, that could mean something speeding up, slowing down, or changing direction. In uniform circular motion, the velocity is constantly changing direction towards the center.
 
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raydred said:
Continuing my spoiler's line of though, then again what's the difference between gravitational force and centripetal force?
"Centripetal force" is just the name given to the net inward force that must exist in circular motion. To have circular motion, something must provide a centripetal force. In the case of a satellite orbiting a planet (say), the gravitational force provides the centripetal force.
 
Doc Al said:
changing direction
But it must be gradually... yes?
But this and packed with a friend's explanation made me understand the concept I think. Thank you two.
 

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