Is the Inverse of a Linear Homogeneous Differential Equation True?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of solutions to linear homogeneous differential equations, specifically examining whether the converse of a known theorem is true: if a function is a solution, does it imply that its components are also solutions individually? The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical proofs related to differential equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a theorem stating that if two functions are solutions of a linear homogeneous differential equation, their sum is also a solution, and questions if the converse holds true.
  • Another participant asserts that the converse is not true, providing an example involving a specific solution to a differential equation and questioning the validity of other proposed solutions.
  • A third participant expresses confusion regarding the example provided and confirms that the converse is indeed not true, as they were seeking clarification on this point.
  • One participant claims that the converse holds for complex functions, suggesting that if a complex function is a solution, its real and imaginary parts are also solutions separately.
  • Another participant humorously retracts their previous statement about the converse being true, emphasizing that the theorem cannot be applied to arbitrary functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the converse of the theorem. While some argue it is not true for real functions, one participant suggests it may hold for complex functions, indicating a lack of consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific forms of differential equations and solutions, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these examples or the conditions under which the theorem may or may not apply.

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In my physics textbook there is a theorem that goes "If x1(t) and x2(t) are both solutions of a linear homogeneous d.e., then x(t) = x1(t) + x2(t) is also a solution."

I need to know if the inverse is true, i.e. If x(t) = x1(t) + x2(t) is a solution, does it implies that x1(t) and x2(t) are also solutions separately.

I tried to do a proof similar to that of the first theorem but I come to (for the case of a second order d.e. and using f(x) = g(x) + h(x) instead of x(t) = x1(t) + x2(t)):

[a2*d²g/dx² + a1*dg/dx + a0*g] + [a2*d²h/dx² + a1*dh/dx + a0*h] = 0

of course [a2*d²g/dx² + a1*dg/dx + a0*g] = 0 and [a2*d²h/dx² + a1*dh/dx + a0*h] = 0 is a solution but maybe it's [a2*d²g/dx² + a1*dg/dx + a0*g] = -[a2*d²h/dx² + a1*dh/dx + a0*h] too, right?
 
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no, the converse isn't true. for example, y'' = 0 has a solution y = a*x + b, but that doesn't mean y = cosh(e^(1-tan(x))) and y = a*t +b - cosh(e^(1-tan(x))) are also solutions. is that what you were asking?
 
I'm not sure I follow your reasoning involving cosh, e, t and x, but if you say that the converse of the theorem "If x1(t) and x2(t) are both solutions of a linear homogeneous d.e., then x(t) = x1(t) + x2(t) is also a solution." isn't true, that is indeed what I wanted to know!

Thank you.
 
It is true for a complex function though!

If f(x) = u(x) + i*w(x) is the solution of a lin. homo. d.e. WITH REAL coefficients, then u(x) and i*w(x) are solutions separately.
 
sorry, i was being a smart ass. its just not true cause if f(t) is a solution, then your theorem would mean g(t) and f(t)-g(t) would both be solutions for ANY g(t), which obviously isn't true.
 

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