Finding Speed and Coefficient of Friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the calculation of speed and the coefficient of friction in a scenario where one car slides into another at a stoplight on an incline. The problem incorporates concepts of kinematics, friction, and forces acting on an object on a slope.

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  • Participants discuss the application of kinematic equations and the role of mechanical energy in the context of the problem. There are attempts to incorporate the incline into the calculations, with some participants suggesting the use of Newton's laws and free body diagrams to analyze the forces involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Newton's second law and the importance of drawing a free body diagram, but there is still uncertainty among participants about how to effectively integrate the incline into their calculations.

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Participants note that the original poster has not yet covered certain equations in their class, leading to confusion about the relevance of mechanical energy in this context. There is also a mention of the need to consider the angle of the incline in the calculations.

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Finding Speed with Coefficient of Friction

You testify as an "expert witness" in a case involving an accident in which car A slid into the rear of car B, which was stopped at a red light along a road headed down a hill (Fig. 6-27). You find that the slope of the hill is = 12.0°, that the cars were separated by distance d = 24.0 m when the driver of car A put the car into a slide (it lacked any automatic anti-brake-lock system), and that the speed of car A at the onset of braking was v0 = 18.5 m/s.

With what speed did car A hit car B if the coefficient of kinetic friction was 0.60 (dry road surface)?

I've figured out this equation since there is constant acceleration:
V^2=Vo^2+2a(x-xo) where a=-(Mk)g. I haven't taken into account the incline and I'm not sure how. How do I incorporate the incline into this equation, if my equation is even right.
 

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Let me point out change of Mechanical Energy will be equal to the work done by friction.

[tex]\Delta E = W_{f}[/tex]
 
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I don't see the relation...
 
[tex]E - E_{o} = W_{f}[/tex]

What's not to see?

Tell me exactly what you don't understand.
 
Well in my class we haven't dealt with that equation yet, and this problem should have nothing to do with Mechanical Energy, just Newton's Laws and Acceleration and Friction.
 
Oh, should had said so :smile: , then use Newton's 2nd law (to find acceleration) and kinematics for final speed.
 
I can't do that lol I wrote out my equation in my original post I just can't incorporate the 12 degree angle.
 
Put your X-axis along the 12 degree straight line, so the normal force will have only a non-zero component, and the weight of the car will have 2 non-zero components one pointing left, and the other pointing down., and the friction force will be on the right, against movement with 1 non-zero component.
 
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hmm not understanding
 
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Draw a Free body diagram.
 

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