N, which is not the case.Find Coefficient of Static Friction for 6.65 kg Box

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The discussion revolves around determining the coefficient of static friction for a 6.65 kg box that requires a force of 21.2 N to initiate movement across a horizontal concrete surface. Participants are exploring the relationship between applied forces, friction, and the normal force in the context of static and kinetic friction.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the box, including the applied force and frictional force. There are attempts to clarify the notation used in the original post and to establish the correct equations for static and kinetic friction. Questions arise regarding the normal force and its relationship to the weight of the box.

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The discussion is active with participants providing insights and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations needed to analyze the problem, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to differentiate between static and kinetic friction scenarios. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the forces at play.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding notation and the equations used. There is also a mention of the box's acceleration and how it affects the forces involved, indicating that the problem may have multiple components that need to be addressed separately.

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A force of 21.2 N is required to start a 6.65 kg box moving across a horizontal concrete floor. What is the coefficient of static friction between the box and the floor?

I've drawn my free body diagram and found that the y motion is N^F,B-W^E,B=0 I also know that the Force is larger than the friction
21.2 N - friction = 6.65a acceleration is not zero in this case right cause if it were zero than the friction would be 21.2
 
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Speaking in components parallel to the floor, u*Fn + Fapplied = 0 for a box to start moving at a constant (but slow) velocity. Or..

u * m * g <= -21.2N in this case because the force applied needs to be a teeny bit larger than static friction where u is the coefficient of static/kinetic friction.
 
really don't understand ur problem or possibly the notation u have used
N^F,B-W^E,B=0 ??

Anyways ...
F <= mu_s*N
and this resists ur applied force
consider the equilibrium and finish ur work

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Excellent, thanks for the help. What I was missing was the propper equation for the problem. This is the other half of the problem and I know it uses a slightly different equation but I don't know what that is.

If the 21.2 N force continues, the box accelerates at 0.400 m/s2. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

(sorry about the notation thing I should've used lower case letters instead of coefficents.)
 
same equation except sum of the forces isn't 0 anymore:

Fapplied + Ffriction = Fresultant

21.2N + u*Fnormal = m*0.4

careful with the sign on Fnormal.
 
Isn't Fnormal just 21.2N*-9.8?
 
R U still around? =(
 
If the box isn't moving horizontally, then the normal force N is equal to the weight of the box mg.
 

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