The discussion revolves around the concept of a closed-loop universe, where time is perceived as cyclical, potentially returning to a starting point. Participants explore philosophical implications, scientific observations, and theoretical models related to the nature of time and the universe's structure.
Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some find the closed-loop concept intriguing, others challenge its feasibility based on current scientific understanding and observations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.
Participants highlight limitations in proving philosophical claims about the nature of time and the universe, as well as the dependence on definitions and interpretations of scientific theories.
Chronos said:It is possible, and it is philosophically appealing, but, science prefers observation and math before drawing conclusions. Even God prefers logic over chaos.
That statement would be impossible to "prove".mijoon said:I agree 100%. However, Gods logic may well be much different from ours.
As unbelievable as it might sound, this is actually a well known solution to the GR equations. If you do a Google search on "Godel's universe", you should find some references to get started on this most interesting topic.Aki said:Do you think we could living in a universe where time is like a rubber band; it has no beginning and no end, as it continues forever in a closed loop. So basically after a loop, then time returns to zero. But is it possible that we are living in a closed loop?
Perhaps when the energy density [entropy] of the observable universe drops to a certain threshold, another big bang will occur. That notion is inspired by quantum mechanics, which insists upon a state of flux. A universe with too much gravity will immediately collapse. A universe with a gravitational force too weak will fly apart before structures have a chance to form. My thinking is this universe is a perfect balance between the two states. I perceive the universe must be perfectly balanced to endure as long as it has. It is also appears it took many cycles to find one that lasted this long.Aki said:chronos, what do you mean by the universe "thins out enough"?