| Thread Closed |
Congratulations to our new Speaker of the House, John Boehner |
Share Thread |
| Jan5-11, 01:13 PM | #1 |
|
|
Congratulations to our new Speaker of the House, John Boehner
One of my favorite Republicans, and like President Obama, SOH Boehner is a shining example of the fact that power still resides with the People. He started his career woking in his father's bar. When his wife married him, he was a building custodian. Today, he is the third most poweful person in the US.
No doubt he will be ticking me off on a nearly daily basis, but I wish him well. Hopefully wisdom will prevail and he will soon be a Democrat. ![]() I should add that this ends the second term of service for the first woman to serve as Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. I never liked Pelosi, but in the end, I must admit that she performed admirably. Under the leadership of her and Senator Reid, like it or not, the 111th Congress got the job done. One cannot argue with success. Congratulations to former SOH Pelosi for a job very well done. The 111th Congress was a historic Congress by any measure. |
| Jan5-11, 01:25 PM | #2 |
|
|
Dare to dream Ivan - dare to dream.
![]() I hope he stays the course on smaller Bills, honest debate, and 3 days to read the pending legislation. |
| Jan5-11, 03:48 PM | #3 |
|
|
My biggest concern is that he will push legislation that can't possibly pass in the Senate, with no chance that Obama would ever sign it, in order to position the party for the 2012 election. My hope is that he will put his country before his party. I like Boehner because I have seen him do this, and I expect he will continue to do so.
While I like the idea that the entire Constitution will be read in order to start the 112th Congress. I hope the SOH will not assume the position that this is a Republican-only platform. Note that in the video below, Boehner cited the Delcaration of Independence, not the Constitution as he claimed. So I ask SOH Boehner and all of our representitives to listen very carefully when the Constitution is read. I also ask our Tea Party favorites to do the same. In spite of the rhetoric, recall that Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell didn't even understand that there is an establishment clause wrt religion, in the Constitution. So I hope they leave their marching band outside and stick to business. In my view, the real threat to the Constitution has come from the right, and esp the Bush administration, not from the best efforts of Obama and the 111th Congress to save a failing economy and a health care system in crisis. |
| Jan5-11, 05:00 PM | #4 |
|
Blog Entries: 1
|
Congratulations to our new Speaker of the House, John BoehnerActually, there is, but most people, especially the courts who keep prohibiting the free exercise thereof, forgot about the second half: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" |
| Jan5-11, 08:13 PM | #5 |
|
|
![]() One of the biggest divisions within the Democratic party was the demand for a public option. When commentators cite the statistic of low support for health care reform, what they often leave out is that about half of those who want it repealed believe it didn't go far enough. So with this factored in, most Americans support basic effort. Only about 30 or 40% reject it in principle. [those stats should be about right]. Additionally, many Democratic Representatives came from Blue dog States that did not generally support the reforms. Even though many Representatives knew it would likely cost them the 2010 election, they fell on their swords for the sake of the country. They opted not to govern by survey. They chose to be leaders and make the tough decision - to do the right thing even if it was political suicide. You may recall the "Yes We Did!" yelp by one Dem Rep., just after reform had passed, when Obama talked about the personal sacrifices made for the country. In my book, those people are political heroes. Had the Democrats done otherwise, they would been accused of governing by the polls, as Clinton was accused of doing. This unity can be attributed in part to Pelosi's leadership, as well as Obama's. Also, in the end, the support of [R] Snow and the two Independents in the Senate was critical. This is what killed the public option. So we had balance within the Democratic party along with the three moderates. The Republicans were clearly employing a political tactic, which included endless abuse of the fillabuster, instead of participating in landmark legislation. It was their choice to bet that health care would be Obama's Waterloo [Steele]. It was their choice to fail in their duties. It was their choice to serve their party instead of the country. So, after a century of failed efforts, the 111th Congress passed historic health care reform. That alone puts the 111th in the history books. As cited in the now locked thread dedicated to the achievements of the 111th Congress, the 111th got more done than any Congress since the time of Johnson. Given that the Republicans opposed in lockstep most of the legislation passed, and given that they rail about all that must be undone, to that extent the 111th clearly succeeded in forwarding much of the legislation sought. As I stated, whether you agree with their solutions or not, much was accomplished in furthering their agenda. That is the definition of success. Only time will tell if they fought the right battles, but as a voter I couldn't be happier. I think they were fighting the right battles and did so most admirably. |
| Jan5-11, 08:36 PM | #6 |
|
|
http://factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/ "To their credit, the GOP analysts admitted this shortcoming, saying their figure "does not include other costs that would be incurred, including office overhead." In fact, they said: "There would be some additional overhead costs for the new employees, such as computers and telephone services." Adjusting for that, they said, the number of new workers implied by the CBO guesstimate would be 11,800." Hmmm, approximately 27 additional IRS employees per Congressional district - how bad can that be? |
| Jan6-11, 01:01 AM | #7 |
|
|
Republicans pointing out costs will skyrocket or freedom of choice will be curtailed, or even both, were not classic scare tactics, that was just pointing out things that will have to happen with such a program as Obamacare (and judging by the history of healthcare programs in America, likely will). Ramming through a completely experimental healthcare bill that no one really has any idea how it will work in practice, for completely ideological reasons, is not doing the right thing. President Obama gave speech after speech on healthcare and still couldn't sell it to the American people. The reason he rammed it through in the end was not for the country, it was to save his Presidency, which he himself stated, that if healthcare failed to pass, it would destroy his Presidency - he'd become a lame-duck. So even if it required the deem-and-pass method, the Democrats were going to push it through. Of course not, because the mandate, one of the main reasons Republicans could not agree to the healthcare bill, is also why the Democrats cannot agree to any Republican attempts at reform of Obamacare, because undoing the mandate also essentially undoes Obamacare. |
| Jan6-11, 11:28 AM | #8 |
|
|
I thought the reading of the Constitution might appear - fake. Now I think it was pure genius. When Nancy Pelosi dutifully stepped to the podium - allowed only to read her script - then stepped off, Boehner verified his power in the House.
I also liked his comment (summarized) that he didn't think anybody in Washington actually believes that repealing Obamacare would increase the deficit. Boehner looked like a parent telling his kids that he wasn't buying their story of how the lamp was broken by a monster. |
| Jan6-11, 11:36 AM | #9 |
|
|
I'd like to find a list of the House Memebrs that didn't think the reading of the Constitution was important enough for them to waste their time. Perhaps they believe it doesn't apply to them?
|
| Jan6-11, 05:00 PM | #10 |
|
|
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47170.html They also had cast votes after missing the swear-in. I personally don't think its that big of a deal for the votes cast; but why were they somewhere else. |
| Jan6-11, 05:24 PM | #11 |
|
|
|
| Jan7-11, 06:02 PM | #12 |
|
|
Be sure to watch very closely. There was an interesting moment that most networks didn't catch.
|
| Jan7-11, 07:21 PM | #13 |
|
|
Oh, the daily show last night was hilarious regarding Boehner. He's the kind of man who can really shake the confidence of a nation, and he's just 2 heartbeats from the presidency!
![]() Reagan would be proud. |
| Thread Closed |
Similar discussions for: Congratulations to our new Speaker of the House, John Boehner
|
||||
| Thread | Forum | Replies | ||
| John Baez and John Huerta Paper | Beyond the Standard Model | 7 | ||
| Weeper of the House - John Boehner | Current Events | 72 | ||
| Question on Rep. John Boehner. | Current Events | 3 | ||
| Would you buy a used car from the Speaker of the House? | Current Events | 30 | ||
| How does one become the speaker of the house, along with the minority/majority leader | Current Events | 4 | ||