Nuclear efficiency and the fine structure constant?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the mass-energy conversion in hydrogen fusion to helium, quantified as 0.007, and the fine structure constant from quantum electrodynamics (QED). Participants assert that the similarity in numerical values is coincidental, emphasizing that hydrogen and helium are not fundamentally linked in this context. The fusion process is governed by strong and weak nuclear forces, while the fine structure constant pertains to electromagnetic interactions. Engaging in numerology with these constants is deemed unproductive.

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I find in Martin Rees "Just Six Numbers" that hydrogen undergoes fusion to helium with a mass energy conversion of .007, that is, the mass of the helium formed is less than the mass of the hydrogen by this ratio.

Is it a coincidence that this number is the same as the fine structure constant from QED which I find described in

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/FineStructureConstant.html

?

I have pretty much convinced myself that it is, but would appreciate confirmation or correction if necessary. My doubt has to do with the notion that QED relates to electromagnetic events involving electrons and photons, while nuclear reactions are governed by the electro-weak force, confined to the nucleus.

Thanks for any help.

nc
 
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It has to be a coincidence. There is nothing special about H and He.

At the risk of causing more trouble, here is a more obvious coincidence that was brought up to me today by a teacher of mine who said that in high school, he thought this was important, but of course it is not.

[tex]\frac{\pi^2}{g}\approx1.005[/tex]
 
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They're completely unrelated. The fusion reaction is a matter of strong/weak nuclear forces, and the fine structure constant sets the coupling strength of the EM force. Doing numerology with these and other constants is not a very worthwhile endeavor. If you do a PF search, you can probably find a few threads on various other coincidences - but do take them with a (large) grain of salt.

Here's an attempt to summarize them: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=46055
 

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