So |a + b| < |a| + |b|. Proved. |a+b|<=|a|+|b|?

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality |a+b| ≤ |a| + |b| for real numbers a and b. Participants express uncertainty regarding the foundational aspects of proofs involving absolute values and the specific inequalities related to the square root expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants attempt to manipulate the expression |a+b| by expanding it to √(a² + 2ab + b²) and question the validity of the inequality √(a² + 2ab + b²) ≤ √(a²) + √(b²). Some suggest considering cases based on the signs of a and b to explore the proof further.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the inequality, with participants seeking clarification on specific steps and expressing a need for more foundational understanding. Multiple interpretations and approaches are being discussed, particularly regarding the handling of absolute values and the implications of sign cases.

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Some participants note a lack of familiarity with the foundational principles of absolute value proofs, which may impact their ability to engage with the problem effectively. The discussion also reflects a concern about the clarity of the inequalities being used in the proof attempts.

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Homework Statement



Let a & b be real numbers.

Prove that:
|a+b|<=|a|+|b|

Homework Equations


|x|=[tex]\sqrt{x^{2}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



|a+b|

=[tex]\sqrt{(a+b)^{2}}[/tex]

=[tex]\sqrt{(a^{2}+2ab+b^{2})}[/tex] <= [tex]\sqrt{a^{2}} + [tex]\sqrt{b^{2}}[/tex]<br /> <br /> |a|=[tex]\sqrt{a^{2}}[/tex]<br /> <br /> |b|=[tex]\sqrt{b^{2}}[/tex]<br /> <br /> I feel like this is lacking in foundation, but I lack in the foundation of proofs involving absolute value. Thanks in advance for the assistance.<br /> <br /> Joe<br /> <br /> Sorry for the ugly formatting, tex is cumbersome sometimes.[/tex]
 
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This is ok. But I would like some more details in the following inequality:

[tex]\sqrt{a^2+2ab+b^2}\leq\sqrt{a^2}+\sqrt{b^2}[/tex]

It's not immediately obvious why this should be true...
 
Agent M27 said:

Homework Statement



Let a & b be real numbers.

Prove that:
|a+b|<=|a|+|b|



Homework Equations


|x|=[tex]\sqrt{x^{2}}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



|a+b|

=[tex]\sqrt{(a+b)^{2}}[/tex]

=[tex]\sqrt{(a^{2}+2ab+b^{2})}[/tex] <= [tex]\sqrt{a^{2}} + \sqrt{b^{2}}[/tex]
This is the only place I see a difficulty. How do you prove this? I suspect it is no simpler to prove this than it is to prove [itex]|a+ b|\le |a|+ |b|[/itex] by "considering cases": a positive or negative, b positive or negative.

|a|=[tex]\sqrt{a^{2}}[/tex]

|b|=[tex]\sqrt{b^{2}}[/tex]

I feel like this is lacking in foundation, but I lack in the foundation of proofs involving absolute value. Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Joe

Sorry for the ugly formatting, tex is cumbersome sometimes.
 
micromass said:
This is ok. But I would like some more details in the following inequality:

[tex]\sqrt{a^2+2ab+b^2}\leq\sqrt{a^2}+\sqrt{b^2}[/tex]

It's not immediately obvious why this should be true...

I completely agree. In fact, I have never seen this before.

How can you prove this ?
 
Agent M27 said:

Homework Statement



Let a & b be real numbers.

Prove that:
|a+b|<=|a|+|b|



Homework Equations


|x|=[tex]\sqrt{x^{2}}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



|a+b|

=[tex]\sqrt{(a+b)^{2}}[/tex]

=[tex]\sqrt{(a^{2}+2ab+b^{2})}[/tex] <= [tex]\sqrt{a^{2}} + [tex]\sqrt{b^{2}}[/tex]<br /> <br /> |a|=[tex]\sqrt{a^{2}}[/tex]<br /> <br /> |b|=[tex]\sqrt{b^{2}}[/tex]<br /> <br /> I feel like this is lacking in foundation, but I lack in the foundation of proofs involving absolute value. Thanks in advance for the assistance.<br /> <br /> Joe<br /> <br /> Sorry for the ugly formatting, tex is cumbersome sometimes.[/tex]
[tex] <br /> With vectors the best way is to use property of the inner product.<br /> <br /> For this however I would simply consider the cases of signs. Because these are numbers in one dimension, you only have to check a few cases.<br /> <br /> If sgn(a) = sign(b) then |a + b| = |a| + |b| if a,b >= 0. |a + b| = |-c - d| = |-(c+d)|<br /> = |-c| + |-d|<br /> <br /> Now let sgn(a) = 1 - sgn(b)<br /> <br /> Then |a + b| < |a| + |b| can be proved simply from the property<br /> <br /> |a + b|^2 = a^2 + b^2 + 2ab<br /> <br /> But if sgn(a) = 1 - sgn(b) then 2ab < 0<br /> <br /> So |a+b|^2 < |a|^2 + |b|^2 from above property[/tex]
 

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