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Why does the refrigerant in an air-conditioner's evaporator become cold? |
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| Jan27-11, 03:36 PM | #1 |
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Why does the refrigerant in an air-conditioner's evaporator become cold?
I believe that when refrigerant in an air-conditioner's evaporator boils into gas, the pressure on the refrigerant goes down tremendously. I believe that the drop in pressure on the refrigerant when it becomes a gas causes the temperature of the refrigerant to drop. I believe this because I remember that there is an ideal gas law that states that the Pressure of a gas is proportional to its temperature.
Does the refrigerant in an air-conditioner's evaporator become cold when it boils into a gas because the pressure on the refrigerant decreases? |
| Jan27-11, 03:49 PM | #2 |
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The temperature is dependent on pressure and volume. If you increase the volume as you increase the temperature, the pressure won't change.
Now, for air conditioners they generally use evaporation to cool the air. You are right, when the coolant evaporates the temperature drops. It is this cool gas that is used to cool the air. Just a note: for evaporation to occur, the liquid does not have to boil - do puddles boil when they evaporate? This article describes how air conditioners work with a nice image to accompany: http://home.howstuffworks.com/ac1.htm |
| Jan27-11, 04:04 PM | #3 |
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The refrigerants are non-ideal gases, so even ignoring everything else there's more here to look at than simple decrease in pressure. Are you just guessing that there must be a pressure drop?
To me your post sounds unaware that there are a compressor and two heat exchangers in the system, or possibly unaware of the pressure difference across a compressor, specifically in a closed system. |
| Jan27-11, 04:10 PM | #4 |
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Why does the refrigerant in an air-conditioner's evaporator become cold? |
| Jan27-11, 07:06 PM | #5 |
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The link you posted isn't correct in the description: When a substance exists simultaneously as a liquid and gas and you input heat at constant pressure, it evaporates without changing the temperature. This is similar to how ice-water is always at 0C. An air conditioner passes the high pressure, warm liquid refrigerant through a throttling valve, where the pressure drops, some of it changes to gas and the temperature drops. In the evaporator, the cold liquid/gas mixture is evaporated into all gas, at constant temperure and pressure (there may be some superheating at the end...) due to the input of heat from the air. See the T-S diagram at the bottom of this link: http://engr.bd.psu.edu/davej/classes.../chapter7.html and the description: |
| Jan27-11, 07:21 PM | #6 |
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| Jan27-11, 07:39 PM | #7 |
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| Jan27-11, 08:05 PM | #8 |
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I assumed it was and so would have altered it as follows: "when some of the coolant evaporates the temperature drops" - I wasn't really referencing stages, even in the original I was simply referencing a phase change as being related to the temperature drop. Didn't mean it as evaporation being the cause. I was a tad loose with the wording to say the least. |
| Jan27-11, 08:29 PM | #9 |
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read about the theory of the J-T (Joule-Thomson) throttling valve and temperature drop of compressed gases in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule%E...Thomson_effect This J-T cooling applies only to real gases. ideal gases won't work. Bob S |
| Jan27-11, 08:31 PM | #10 |
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I do apologise, I was wrong. |
| Jan28-11, 09:00 AM | #11 |
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I wanted to work towards Joule-Thomson after getting an answer, but was beaten to it. |
| Jan29-11, 08:41 PM | #12 |
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I have not seen anybody include the equation PV=nRT so I will.
1) So more pressure more temperature, heat can then be lost to surrounding air through heat exchanger 2) Explained the volume lowering the pressure lowering the temperature, heat can be absorbed through heat exchanger from the food in the frig 3) repeat no condensing/evaporating is required but we could make use of the heat of vaporization to to make this move more heat per volume of working fluid |
| Feb1-11, 03:36 PM | #13 |
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| Feb1-11, 03:40 PM | #14 |
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| Feb1-11, 03:42 PM | #15 |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "possibly unaware of the pressure difference across a compressor." I know that there is high pressure on the discharge line from the compressor, and I know that there is much less pressure after the refrigerant goes through the metering device on the suction line. |
| Feb1-11, 03:47 PM | #16 |
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