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| Jan31-11, 10:15 AM | #1 |
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How does a gauge field lead to charge superselection?
How does the electromagnetic gauge field lead to charge superselection and why does this fail when the symmetry is broken as e.g. in superconductors?
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| Mar6-11, 11:20 AM | #2 |
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Superselection happens whenever a field can have nontrivial behavior at infinity. The C^* algebra of bounded observables then has multiple physically relevant inequivalent representations, each one corresponding to a superselection sector, and indexed by a corresponding charge. In a gauge theory, these charges are associated with the charge operators defined by Noether's theorem. If the symmetry is broken, the charges also go away (as my limited understanding tells me). The charge structure means that the Wightman view only works for the charge zero part of the algebra, consisting of all gauge invariant observables. These are represented as self-adjoint operators, so that one can form expectations values of products. On the other hand, gauge-dependent observables are needed to create charged states, but since these are in different superselection sectors, they correspond to inequivalent representations, which means that these must be implemented differently. This is done through nonregular representations of the Weyl algebra, which leads to nonseparable Hilbert spaces of the same kind Kibble used already to address the infrared problem of QED. I found Section 4 of Strocchi's paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0401143 a quite readable summary. =============================================== For the sake of new readers, I collect below a few pieces of related discussion from two older threads: Strocchi echoes (in many of his papers) more or less your arguments about why under certain assumptions the Gauss law implies the absence of charged states, but puts them into the framework of axiomatic field theory (where the completely different notation and terminology makes things look very different). This results in theorem that precisely specify the assumptions that go into the conclusions. I started to look into the evidence Strocchi referenced [in the article mentioned by bg032]. I am still reading, and hope to present my findings later in this thread. His formal exposition is generally rigorous (if one ignores somewhat looser talk in the introductions), but I find fault with his informal conclusions, since they are based on interpreting assumptions (stated in his theorems) that are far from trivial and by no means only formal translations of properties necessary for the real thing. In particular, at present I don't think his no-go theorems are relevant for theories (like QCD) expected to have a mass gap. The situation may be different (i.e., not of Wightman form) for theories like QED that have massless asymptotic fields, because then the asymptotic states carrying the scattering physics cannot be described in a Fock representation but need more general coherent representations of the CCR (and different such representations for asymptotic states of different velocity). The article mentioned by bg032 is about the latter situation. A superselection sector is essentially an orbit of the algebra of local observables on a representing Hilbert space. (This is usually expressed by saying that superpositions between different superselection sectors are forbidden. See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superselection) Thus it characterizes the asymptotic structure of a theory, capturing in particular the boundary conditions at infinity that we had been discussing.[/QUOTE] |
| Mar7-11, 07:49 AM | #3 |
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Maybe I should first concretize my initial question. I am not specially interested in electromagnetism, i.e. symmetry breaking involving massless particles, which seems to be the difficult part of the problem.
As far as I understand it right now, it has been one of the great successes of aqft to derive the gauge symmetry of the field algebra, and the statistics of the particles, from the "observable" superselection sector structure and the algebra of quasi-local observables. One assumption in this analysis is Haag's duality, which states, as I understood it, that the local observables (or their representation) on regions which are space like form all the commuting operators which commute with the quasi-local operators in a double cone. (Please feel free to comment on this. I am not sure that I understand correctly a statement like A(O)'=A(O') ). From causality one can only conclude that the operators in space like separated regions form a sub set of all commuting operators. In fact, in situations with a broken symmetry, there seem to exist other commuting operators. I would be glad to see some concrete example. There seems to be an interesting discussion of this topic which, however, is not accessible to me: J. Roberts, “Spontaneously broken gauge symmetries and superselection rules” in Proceedings of the International School of Mathematical Physics, Camerino, 1974, ed. by G. Galavotti,1976 |
| Mar8-11, 05:49 PM | #4 |
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How does a gauge field lead to charge superselection?The C^* algebra contains only gauge invariant field operators (or rather their exponentials). This means that charged field operators are not represented. For the case of QED in the limit e-->0, this means that the generating operators are smeared versions of F=dA and of products of an electron field and a positron field. The task (and the achievement) is to reconstruct from that the Fermion fields. This is done by finding the outer automorphism group of the C^* algebra - it contains all inner automorphisms (conjugation with exponentials) as a normal subgroup; the factor group is the global gauge group, in this case the abelian group generated by the electron charge. Shifting the Fock representation (which describes the charge 0 structure) by a representative in the gauge group, of charge Q gives an inequivalent representation, which describes the charge Q sector of the theory. Augmenting the algebra by the charges, one gets a representation in a bigger space, the direct sum of all these representations, which is in this case the free Fock space. This is a simplified picture since it ignores the part played by the e/m field. But I don't fully understand the details yet.... H. Joos and E. Weimar On the covariant description of spontaneously broken symmetry in general field theory http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/874059/...-P00061555.pdf F. Strocchi, Spontaneous symmetry breaking in local gauge quantum field theory; the Higgs mechanism, Communications in Mathematical Physics 56 (1977), 57-78 (freely accessible through project Euclid) |
| Mar9-11, 10:10 AM | #5 |
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Thank you for the links. The first one seems to be quite interesting while the second seems to be more about specific problems with massless particles and indefinite fields.
What I like especially in the axiomatic approach is to start from observables only and, as a substitute for the gauge field, the concept of superselection sectors, which are observable in so far as no one has observed a superposition of different charge states. The gauge fields then appear basically as a means to eliminate phase factors in superpositions of states from different superselection sectors by averaging over group action, right? In a free theory, I only have to consider the vacuum and a state with one charge unit, the rest follows from tensor products. That statistics drops out from this is also not unexpected as the irreducible representations of unitary groups can be labeled by Young diagrams. What is more unclear to me is where relativity and causality come into play as broken symmetry also appears in non-relativistic systems, even broken gauge symmetry as in the case of a superconductor. I suppose in non-relativistic problems the equivalent of causality is that one has to assume that local observables with different localization commute at equal time. |
| Mar9-11, 10:34 AM | #6 |
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The latter is related to the superselection structure, but I don't understand yet how. Unfortunately, I don't really know much more about this in the context of your question. |
| Apr5-11, 03:40 AM | #7 |
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I am still struggling to understand this topic. Several articles (see below) on symmetry breaking state that symmetry is broken if from Noether's theorem we get some conserved current [tex]j_\mu[/tex] but the charge operator [tex] \lim_{V \to \infty} \int dV j_0 [/tex] does not exist (because the limit doesn't converge).
Wouldnt that mean that in any state with a non-zero homogeneous charge density j_0 the U(1) symmetry leading to that charge is broken? However, I have never heard that in a homogeneous non-interacting Fermi gas U(1) symmetry is broken. 1. R. F. Streater, „Spontaneous breakdown of symmetry in axiomatic theory“, Proceedings of the Royal Society of London. Series A. Mathematical and Physical Sciences 287, Nr. 1411 (1965): 510. 2. H. Reeh, „Symmetry Operations and Spontaneously Broken Symmetries in Relativistic Quantum Field Theories“, Fortschritte der Physik 16, Nr. 11 & 12 (1968): 687-706. |
| Apr11-11, 02:16 AM | #8 |
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The nonexistence of the charge operator therefore does not imply the nonexistence of the U(1) representation. It only means that in the relevant representation, the U(1) has no infinitesimal generator (which would be the charge). For background of such nonregular representations in the simplest case where the group is the Weyl group, see Acerbi, F. and Morchio, G. and Strocchi, F., Infrared singular fields and nonregular representations of canonical commutation relation algebras, Journal of Mathematical Physics 34 (1993), 899 |
| Apr12-11, 03:00 AM | #9 |
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Thanks for the interesting article. However as far as I understand it, the effects described are more typical of low dimensional systems.
Regarding the connection between representations of U(1) and its generator Q, isn't the relation still given by Stones theorem? So if Q does not exist, the operations from U(1) are not unitarily implementable. |
| Apr12-11, 06:58 AM | #10 |
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| Apr12-11, 07:48 AM | #11 |
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Can you translate the mathematical definition of a "nonregular" representation into human language? The definition of the sigma(F,G) seems to be some smeared out version of Heisenbergs commutation relation, but what is the "nondegenerate quadratic Hilbert form" q(.) and what is the consequence of it being infinite? |
| Apr12-11, 08:33 AM | #12 |
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The example with the Zak transform is non-regular in arbitrary dimensions. The nonregular representation encodes a direct sum of lots of inequivalent irreducible representations, forming a nonseparable Hilbert space. This is the same Hilbert space also considered by Kibble and Kulish/Faddeev in the context of resolving the IR problem of QED (where everything is much messier). You can work out easily the meaning of q and sigma by looking at the case of n independent oscillators and working out the form of the Weyl relations. Of course, this gives a regular representation, but it tells the ''standard'' form of sigma and q. The main novelty of their paper is that by allowing q to be defined only on a subspace one gets lots of additional nonregular representations, and as his long list of example shows, these encode important problems. Each one shows a different facet of the meaning of the concept. |
| Apr12-11, 09:49 AM | #13 |
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From what I understand that all looks suspiciously like kind of the Wagner Mermin theorem from solid state physics.
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| Apr13-11, 05:53 AM | #14 |
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Many of the examples in Acerbi et al are 2-dimensional, since these are more tractable. But the ideas and the necessity and usefulness of nonregular representations are general, and are present whenever there are unitarily inequivalent representations related by a group of automorphisms of the observable algebra. |
| May31-11, 04:36 AM | #15 |
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Dear Arnold,
I decided to understand the DHR analysis in somewhat more detail and read the chapter IV in R. Haag, Local quantum physics. I have some problem understanding the cross product of intertwiners (IV.2.15). He defines charge operators [tex]\rho (A)=V\pi(A)V^{-1}[/tex] where A is an arbitrary observable, and V is a unitary operator, pi designs a representation of the algebra in a given Hilbert space. Obviously, charge operators can be composed. He now introduces intertwiners R as [tex](\rho'A)R=R(\rho A)[/tex] and designs them as [tex]\mathbf{R}=(\rho',R,\rho)[/tex]. Now he introduces a cross product of intertwiners [tex]\mathbf{R}_2 x\mathbf{R}_1=(\rho'_2\rho'_1, R_2\rho_2R_1,\rho_2\rho_1)[/tex], saying that it can easily be checked. I don't see how! |
| May31-11, 05:49 AM | #16 |
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Also, I don't have Haag's book, and from what you write I can't guess what is going on. Maybe adding the definition of the composition of two rho's and two rhodash's would help. |
| May31-11, 06:28 AM | #17 |
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In most cases when I consider posting a question in this forum, I find the answer while formulating the problem, as it forces me to formulate the question so that someone else can understand. This time it happened when trying to formulate an answer to your post.
The answer lies in Haag making a difference between the product of algebraic elements (e.g. A, R) and products of morphisms (rho) and how products of these quantities are to be interpreted (when using brackets etc ). I didn't quite understand this difference until now. So [tex] R_2 (\rho_2 R_1) \rho_2 \rho_1 A=R_2 V_2 R_1 V^{-1}_2V_1 A V^{-1}_1 V^{-1}_2 [/tex]. On the right hand side, only algebraic products appear and the calculation becomes trivial. Nevertheless thank you very much. |
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