What Mathematical Method Did Feynman Frequently Use?

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The discussion revolves around a quote from Richard Feynman regarding a mathematical method he frequently used, specifically the technique of differentiating parameters under the integral sign. Participants explore the nature of this method, its applications, and its teaching in academic settings.

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  • One participant quotes Feynman, expressing curiosity about the method of differentiating parameters under the integral sign and its relevance in their current studies.
  • Another participant identifies the method as differentiating under the integral sign, suggesting it is the only interpretation of Feynman's statement.
  • Some participants propose that the method could be related to "Leibniz's rule," which is taught in advanced calculus and differential equations courses.
  • There is a discussion about the correct naming of the rule, with one participant referring to it as "Lagrange's rule," while others correct this to "Leibniz's rule."
  • Participants point out potential errors in the mathematical expression provided, including sign flaws and the need for limits and differential elements (dt) in the formulation.

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Participants generally agree that the method in question relates to differentiating under the integral sign, but there is disagreement regarding the terminology and the correctness of the mathematical expression. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise formulation and its teaching in academic contexts.

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Some participants note limitations in the mathematical expressions shared, including missing assumptions and potential errors in differentiation. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the method and its applications.

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I was flipping through "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman" and I came across something he said that I'm curious about. I'll go ahead and quote it:

"The book showed how to differentiate parameters under the integral sign - it's a certain operation. It turns out that's not taught very much in the universities; they don't emphasize it. But I caught on how to use that method, and I used that one damn too again and again."

My question is, what method is he referring to? I'm only in vector cal, so I don't know if it's a method that is associated with higher-level mathematics, or if it's just something that I've "learned" and forgotten or what. So if anyone could enlighten me as to this method, how it's done, when it's used, etc., I'd be much appreciative. Thanks.
 
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Your quote refers to differentiating parameters under the integral sign. I am not sure what else could be meant.
 
The only thing I could think of was "Leibniz's rule" which certainly is taught, sometimes in both advanced Calculus and Differential Equations courses (where it is used extensively):
[tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)}f(x,t)dt= \int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)}\frac{\partial f(x,t)}{\partial x}dt + \frac{d\alpha(x)}{dx}f(x,\alpha(x))- \frac{d\beta(x)}{dx}f(x,\beta(x))[/tex]

(thanks, arildo!)

Alright, already! Is it good now? You know I can't be worried about little thing like one more or less "dt". (And "Liebniz" and "Lagrange" were really the same guy weren't they!) :smile:
 
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"Lagrange's rule"?
That's odd; I know it as "Leibniz' rule"..
 
Wow, you're fast! I hadn't finished editing!
 
Well, it could just be one rule you were referring to, whatever shape you first presented it in..:wink:
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You have a sign flaw in the upper&lower limit differentiations.
 
And there should be a dt in there somewhere...

And to be fully general there needs to be limits sprinkled into there somehow...
 
HallsofIvy said:
The only thing I could think of was "Leibniz's rule" which certainly is taught, sometimes in both advanced Calculus and Differential Equations courses (where it is used extensively):
[tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)}f(x,t)dt= \int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)}\frac{\partial f(x,t)}{\partial x}dt + \frac{d\alpha(x)}{dx}f(x,\alpha(x))- \frac{d\beta(x)}{dx}f(x,\beta(x))[/tex]

(thanks, arildo!)

Alright, already! Is it good now? You know I can't be worried about little thing like one more or less "dt". (And "Liebniz" and "Lagrange" were really the same guy weren't they!) :smile:
I (almost..:wink:) hate to be picky, but I prefer it this way:
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)}f(x,t)dt= \int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)}\frac{\partial f(x,t)}{\partial x}dt + \frac{d\beta(x)}{dx}f(x,\beta(x))- \frac{d\alpha(x)}{dx}f(x,\alpha(x))[/tex]
 

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